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Fri 04/12/19


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 10:46 AM - Re: Re: S700-2-50 switch (DANIEL PELLETIER)
     2. 11:58 AM - Re: S700-2-50 switch (user9253)
     3. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: S700-2-50 switch (Bill Steer)
     4. 01:16 PM - Engine Compartment Connector Help PLEASE ()
     5. 02:46 PM - Re: Engine Compartment Connector Help PLEASE (Ernest Christley)
     6. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: S700-2-50 switch (DANIEL PELLETIER)
     7. 08:11 PM - Re: S700-2-50 switch (user9253)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:46:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: S700-2-50 switch
    From: DANIEL PELLETIER <pelletie1959@me.com>
    Not really, I've yet thi diagram. Maybe I don't understand this diagram. When I flip the switch on the momentary, the starter contactor is on but the ignition is off. It doesn't make sense. Daniel Pelletier Envoy de mon iPad > Le 11 avr. 2019 20:26, user9253 <fransew@gmail.com> a crit : > > > Will this diagram help? > https://mid-8704.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2-50-Typical-use-PMAG-POWER-TEST-drawing.pdf > > -------- > Joe Gores > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488676#488676 > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:58:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: S700-2-50 switch
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    We need more information. Do you have a Rotax 912ULS engine? If not, what engine? Does it have magnetos? Can you post a picture that shows how the wires are connected? I would use 3 separate switches: 1 momentary switch for starting. 2 separate ignition switches. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488691#488691


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    Time: 12:11:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: S700-2-50 switch
    From: Bill Steer <steerr@bellsouth.net>
    That's what I did for the Hirth 3202 on my Excalibur. The two separate ignition switches, and the pushbutton start switch, are wired so that both ignition switches must be on for the start switch to work. On 4/12/2019 2:57 PM, user9253 wrote: > > We need more information. Do you have a Rotax 912ULS engine? > If not, what engine? > Does it have magnetos? > Can you post a picture that shows how the wires are connected? > I would use 3 separate switches: > 1 momentary switch for starting. > 2 separate ignition switches. > > -------- > Joe Gores > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488691#488691 > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com


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    Time: 01:16:10 PM PST US
    From: <billhuntersemail@gmail.com>
    Subject: Engine Compartment Connector Help PLEASE
    Greetings, I am looking for an =9Cengine compartment proof=9D connector for a 9 conductor ignition sensor cable so I thought I would ask the pros at the Aeroelectric list for helpagain. I have an engine that has dual Lightspeed Plasma III ignition systems and I need to remove the engine to gain access to the accessory case. The dilemma is that the two cables (containing 9 conductors each) that run from the crank sensor at the nose of the engine to the ignition modules mounted on the cold side of the firewall are too short to be able to move the engine out far enough to gain access to the accessory casethe crank sensor end of the cables are soldered to the crank sensor PC board and the ignition module end is on the cold side of the firewall and it has D-Sub connectors that are too large to pull out through the firewall wire conduit (see picture of conduit before all of the other wires were run through it. So I am considering cutting the 9 conductor cables in half on the engine side of the firewall and using some kind of VERY RELIABLE connector to splice these VERY IMPORTANT cables. Does anyone have any product recommendation? D-Sub (liquid proof male and female hoods)??? Deutch connectors??? I would prefer a metal connector body although I do not think it will really matter. Thanks, Bill Hunter


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    Time: 02:46:16 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine Compartment Connector Help PLEASE
    I use a 25-pin Dsub with the female side mounted from the inside of the fi rewall.=C2- It is a ceramic filled Dsub, so that in the case of a fire it will be more resilient than the galvanized steel that Zenith specifies for the firewall.=C2- All of the engine instruments, including the CHT and E GT probes go through that Dsub.*=C2- It makes for a very clean installati on.=C2- If you have the Dsub on one side already, consider just making th at parallelegram hole, and being done with it. *I just crimped a pin onto the end of the wires. If there is more than 1* o f difference between the wires inside of that connector, I'll be a monkey's uncle.=C2- Wait.=C2- Given my nephews, that may be the case already. On Friday, April 12, 2019, 4:17:13 PM EDT, billhuntersemail@gmail.com < billhuntersemail@gmail.com> wrote: <!--#yiv2969934847 _filtered #yiv2969934847 {font-family:"Cambria Math";pa nose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2969934847 {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2969934847 {font-family:"Cali bri Light";panose-1:2 15 3 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2969934847 #yiv2969934847 p.y iv2969934847MsoNormal, #yiv2969934847 li.yiv2969934847MsoNormal, #yiv296993 4847 div.yiv2969934847MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size :11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv2969934847 h1 {margin-right: 0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yi v2969934847 a:link, #yiv2969934847 span.yiv2969934847MsoHyperlink {color:bl ue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2969934847 a:visited, #yiv2969934847 span .yiv2969934847MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline; }#yiv2969934847 span.yiv2969934847Heading1Char {font-family:"Calibri Light" , sans-serif;color:#2F5496;}#yiv2969934847 p.yiv2969934847msonormal0, #yiv2 969934847 li.yiv2969934847msonormal0, #yiv2969934847 div.yiv2969934847msono rmal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib ri", sans-serif;}#yiv2969934847 span.yiv2969934847EmailStyle19 {font-family :"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv2969934847 span.yiv2969934847E mailStyle20 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv296993 4847 .yiv2969934847MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv29699348 47 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2969934847 div.yiv2969934847WordSec tion1 {}--> =C2- Greetings, =C2- I am looking for an =9Cengine compartment proof=9D connector fo r a 9 conductor ignition sensor cable so I thought I would ask the pros at the Aeroelectric list for helpagain. =C2- I have an engine that has dual Lightspeed Plasma III ignition systems and I need to remove the engine to gain access to the accessory case.=C2- =C2- The dilemma is that the two cables (containing 9 conductors each) that run from the crank sensor at the nose of the engine to the ignition modules mou nted on the cold side of the firewall are too short to be able to move the engine out far enough to gain access to the accessory casethe cran k sensor end of the cables are soldered to the crank sensor PC board and th e ignition module end is on the cold side of the firewall and it has D-Sub connectors that are too large to pull out through the firewall wire conduit (see picture of conduit before all of the other wires were run through it. =C2- So I am considering cutting the 9 conductor cables in half on the engine si de of the firewall and using some kind of VERY RELIABLE connector to splice these VERY IMPORTANT cables. =C2- Does anyone have any product recommendation?=C2- D-Sub (liquid proof male and female hoods)???=C2- Deutch connectors???=C2- I would prefer a met al connector body although I do not think it will really matter. Thanks, Bill Hunter =C2- =C2-


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    Time: 05:56:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: S700-2-50 switch
    From: DANIEL PELLETIER <pelletie1959@me.com>
    I have a 912 uls. I use this setup of switch at the suggestion of Bob, see note 2 in the Z16 diagram. But there is no pattern for that type of switch in the Z16 schema. If I can find the way to plug it, I will use a distinct start button and two separate switch for ignition. Daniel Pelletier Envoy de mon iPad > Le 12 avr. 2019 15:11, Bill Steer <steerr@bellsouth.net> a crit : > > > That's what I did for the Hirth 3202 on my Excalibur. The two separate ignition switches, and the pushbutton start switch, are wired so that both ignition switches must be on for the start switch to work. > > >> On 4/12/2019 2:57 PM, user9253 wrote: >> >> We need more information. Do you have a Rotax 912ULS engine? >> If not, what engine? >> Does it have magnetos? >> Can you post a picture that shows how the wires are connected? >> I would use 3 separate switches: >> 1 momentary switch for starting. >> 2 separate ignition switches. >> >> -------- >> Joe Gores >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488691#488691 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > >


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    Time: 08:11:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: S700-2-50 switch
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    Below is a drawing showing how to connect ignition switches and start switch. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488706#488706 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_and_start_129.jpg




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