---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/23/19: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - Re: One sender 2 indicators (argoldman@aol.com) 2. 04:54 AM - FOT Hardware (Paul Happ) 3. 05:15 AM - Re: FOT Hardware (Kelly McMullen) 4. 05:43 AM - Re: FOT Hardware (Charlie England) 5. 08:34 AM - Re: FOT Hardware (Ken Ryan) 6. 09:50 AM - Re: FOT Hardware (Art Zemon) 7. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? (James Quinn) 8. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? (William Greenley) 9. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? (Sebastien) 10. 01:45 PM - Re: The joys of a Z-14 during an charging system failure (supik) 11. 02:54 PM - Re: FOT Hardware (bob noffs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:12 AM PST US From: argoldman@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: One sender 2 indicators Thanks bob, Indicator =C2- =C2-1---Dynon Skyviwew requires 0-5VIndicator=C2- =C2 - 2=C2- =C2-Real World Solutions=C2- =C2-EM-3 (rotary) requires 0 -5V The senders are 0-5V , Prinsten Rich In a message dated 4/22/2019 10:37:52 PM Central Standard Time, nuckolls.bo b@aeroelectric.com writes: At 10:24 PM 4/22/2019, you wrote: Gents and ladies. Can one capacitive fuel level sender ( 0 to 5v) be connec ted to 2 electronic indicators ??? =C2- Absolutely . . . but it may take some =C2- 'system integration'. What kind of =C2- 'indicators' come with the system? =C2- Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:01 AM PST US From: Paul Happ Subject: AeroElectric-List: FOT Hardware Hi, I have B&C's FOT on my RV-8 firewall. It comes with brass hardware. However I need a longer bolt for the thickness of the connectors for the standard battery and engine grounds. In AC 43.13-1B (11-76 11-79) I see very specific material types called out for bonding connection hardware. Question is, do I need to stick with brass or can I go with the standard cadmium plated AN hardware we use everywhere else in our homebuilts? If Bob suggests brass, what's a good supplier? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FOT Hardware From: Kelly McMullen With large current connectors, such as battery ground and engine ground you do NOT need to connect to the FOT. Connect to any bolt going through the firewall and you will be fine. The FOT grounds are for avionics that are low current, prone to ground loops etc. Your high current connections are fine using the metal airframe for ground. AN hardware is also fine for those connections. If you try to stack those large connectors all together with the bolt going through your FOT you are asking for something not connecting well. On my RV-10 Vans has the engine ground using the engine mount firewall bolts as the engine ground connection. Maybe not ideal, but it works. On 4/23/2019 4:52 AM, Paul Happ wrote: > Hi, > > I have B&C's FOT on my RV-8 firewall. It comes with brass hardware. > > However I need a longer bolt for the thickness of the connectors for the > standard battery and engine grounds. In AC 43.13-1B (11-76 11-79) I > see very specific material types called out for bonding connection > hardware. > > Question is, do I need to stick with brass or can I go with the > standard cadmium plated AN hardware we use everywhere else in our > homebuilts? If Bob suggests brass, what's a good supplier? > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:23 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FOT Hardware What diameter are the B&C bolts? I made my own FOT using a brass blank switchplate & tabs from an electronic supplier, and for the bolt, I used a 5/16" brass bolt soldered to the plate. The bolts are available in pairs, complete with brass nuts, from your local hardware store or big box store. You just need to look in an unconventional area to find them. :-) https://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+hold+down+bolts&oq=toilet+hold+down+bolts&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.8822j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Charlie Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 6:58 AM Paul Happ wrote: > Hi, > > I have B&C's FOT on my RV-8 firewall. It comes with brass hardware. > > However I need a longer bolt for the thickness of the connectors for the > standard battery and engine grounds. In AC 43.13-1B (11-76 11-79) I see > very specific material types called out for bonding connection hardware. > > Question is, do I need to stick with brass or can I go with the standard > cadmium plated AN hardware we use everywhere else in our homebuilts? If > Bob suggests brass, what's a good supplier? > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:37 AM PST US From: Ken Ryan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FOT Hardware Please remind me, what is FOT? On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 04:20 Kelly McMullen wrote: > kellym@aviating.com> > > With large current connectors, such as battery ground and engine ground > you do NOT need to connect to the FOT. Connect to any bolt going through > the firewall and you will be fine. The FOT grounds are for avionics that > are low current, prone to ground loops etc. Your high current > connections are fine using the metal airframe for ground. AN hardware is > also fine for those connections. If you try to stack those large > connectors all together with the bolt going through your FOT you are > asking for something not connecting well. On my RV-10 Vans has the > engine ground using the engine mount firewall bolts as the engine ground > connection. Maybe not ideal, but it works. > > On 4/23/2019 4:52 AM, Paul Happ wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have B&C's FOT on my RV-8 firewall. It comes with brass hardware. > > > > However I need a longer bolt for the thickness of the connectors for the > > standard battery and engine grounds. In AC 43.13-1B (11-76 11-79) I > > see very specific material types called out for bonding connection > > hardware. > > > > Question is, do I need to stick with brass or can I go with the > > standard cadmium plated AN hardware we use everywhere else in our > > homebuilts? If Bob suggests brass, what's a good supplier? > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:21 AM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FOT Hardware forest of tabs On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:51 AM Ken Ryan wrote: > Please remind me, what is FOT? > -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *"Love wins. Love always wins." Morrie Schwartz* ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:05 AM PST US From: James Quinn Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? To Richard - Well said! On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:33 PM Richard Girard wrote : > Chief, You just announced to the world on a forum dedicated to crafting > aircraft electrical systems that you intend to cheat in order to pile it > higher and deeper. You know how nothing ever goes away on the internet? > Perhaps this is a good time for you to re-think your life plan. As the ki ds > say, Just sayin' > > Rick > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:20 AM kratos wrote : > >> steamcsgogrizzly@gmail.com> >> >> I want to order thesis on https://paperleaf.ca/do-my-homework/ so the >> defence would be assessed with highest mark. I know there is a lot of wh at >> they do, abstracts and homeworks are among them for sure. There are very >> good reviews about them. What can you say about this service? Should I >> trust them? This thesis is really important for me, it`s just that I can `t >> screw this up. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488859#488859 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> - >> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > -- > =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light. =9D Groucho Marx > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:11 AM PST US From: William Greenley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? This could also just be part of a Gorilla marketing campaign for the service. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:39 PM James Quinn wrote: > To Richard - Well said! > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:33 PM Richard Girard > wrote: > >> Chief, You just announced to the world on a forum dedicated to crafting >> aircraft electrical systems that you intend to cheat in order to pile it >> higher and deeper. You know how nothing ever goes away on the internet? >> Perhaps this is a good time for you to re-think your life plan. As the k ids >> say, Just sayin' >> >> Rick >> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:20 AM kratos >> wrote: >> >>> steamcsgogrizzly@gmail.com> >>> >>> I want to order thesis on https://paperleaf.ca/do-my-homework/ so the >>> defence would be assessed with highest mark. I know there is a lot of w hat >>> they do, abstracts and homeworks are among them for sure. There are ver y >>> good reviews about them. What can you say about this service? Should I >>> trust them? This thesis is really important for me, it`s just that I ca n`t >>> screw this up. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=488859#488859 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> - >>> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >>> ========== >>> FORUMS - >>> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> WIKI - >>> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> b Site - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light. =9D Groucho >> Marx >> >> ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:00 AM PST US From: Sebastien Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: How to submit a reliable essay? Guerilla. Gorillas are quite different. It's obviously not genuine. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 14:47 William Greenley wrote: > This could also just be part of a Gorilla marketing campaign for the > service. > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 2:39 PM James Quinn wrote: > >> To Richard - Well said! >> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:33 PM Richard Girard >> wrote: >> >>> Chief, You just announced to the world on a forum dedicated to crafting >>> aircraft electrical systems that you intend to cheat in order to pile i t >>> higher and deeper. You know how nothing ever goes away on the internet? >>> Perhaps this is a good time for you to re-think your life plan. As the kids >>> say, Just sayin' >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:20 AM kratos >>> wrote: >>> >>>> steamcsgogrizzly@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> I want to order thesis on https://paperleaf.ca/do-my-homework/ so the >>>> defence would be assessed with highest mark. 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Love always wins." 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