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1. 06:56 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 05/10/19 (Steve Stearns)
2. 08:59 AM - Emacs plague (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 09:00 AM - Emacs plague (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 09:06 AM - Emacs plague (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 09:56 AM - Re: New Battery Minder evaulation (Charles Davis)
6. 02:11 PM - Re: New Battery Minder evaulation (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 02:31 PM - Re: New Battery Minder evaulation (user9253)
8. 03:17 PM - Re: New Battery Minder evaulation (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 05/10/19 |
William said, "Getting Emacs graphics?
I subscribe to the once a day compilation of messages, and when Bob puts
out a graphic, it just shows as Emacs!, I tried going on the archives to
see if it has the graphic, but still just Emacs. How do I get to see the
attachment?"
Hi Bill - You don't. At least I (who also get the digest) never have. I
have to guess if it's an image I really want to see and, when it is, I
direct email the poster for an emailed copy.
If you find a better solution, let me know. I get too many emails to want
to follow the forum with the regular emails. The digest works great
*except* for the problem with attached/embedded info.
Steve Stearns
O235 Longeze N45FC ~1500 Hrs.
Boulder/Longmont CO
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>
>Hi Bill - You don't.=C2 At least I (who also get
>the digest) never have.=C2 I have to guess if
>it's an image I really want to see and, when it
>is, I direct email the poster for an emailed copy.
>
>If you find a better solution, let me know.=C2 I
>get too many emails to want to follow the forum
>with the regular emails.=C2 The digest works
>great *except* for the problem with attached/embedded info.
>
>Steve Stearns
>O235 Longeze N45FC ~1500 Hrs.
>Boulder/Longmont CO
By the time various systems and
services receive/filter/pass-on
our most earnestly authored missives,
there are risks of compatibility
issues . . . especially when one
perhaps exploits faithful tools
not universally accepted in the
wider world of byte thrashers.
I've been using the Eudora email
client almost since its inception.
I've tried others and keep coming
back for reasons too numerous to
mention here. I still adore Win7,
and airplanes with steam gages . . .
what can I say?
I prefer to embed the graphics
where my work product is what-what-
you-see-is-what-you get. But I could
additionally attach the images. This would,
I believe, stuff the total package
through the most un-cooperative
email pipes. I'll give it a try.
You can always register with the
Matronics Forums browser service at
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Matronics are equally accessible.
I use this service to stay in touch
when I'm away from my stable
of keyboards. I can read and respond
to AE-List traffic from any computer.
Bob . . .
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>
>Hi Bill - You don't.=C2 At least I (who also get
>the digest) never have.=C2 I have to guess if
>it's an image I really want to see and, when it
>is, I direct email the poster for an emailed copy.
>
>If you find a better solution, let me know.=C2 I
>get too many emails to want to follow the forum
>with the regular emails.=C2 The digest works
>great *except* for the problem with attached/embedded info.
>
>Steve Stearns
>O235 Longeze N45FC ~1500 Hrs.
>Boulder/Longmont CO
Steve, I sent a copy of that posting
directly to you as well . . . did you
not receive it intact?
Bob . . .
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>
>Hi Bill - You don't.=C2 At least I (who also get
>the digest) never have.=C2 I have to guess if
>it's an image I really want to see and, when it
>is, I direct email the poster for an emailed copy.
>
>If you find a better solution, let me know.=C2 I
>get too many emails to want to follow the forum
>with the regular emails.=C2 The digest works
>great *except* for the problem with attached/embedded info.
>
>Steve Stearns
>O235 Longeze N45FC ~1500 Hrs.
>Boulder/Longmont CO
Here is the graphic embedded . . .
Emacs!
I have also included it as an attachment . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: New Battery Minder evaulation |
Hi, Bob
Could you explain your graph a bit for me .. I am confused by the
caption "9Volt, 15Sec, 120A" - and the top line "5.0A Discharge" - are
you discharging at 120A for 15 seconds, or to 9Volts ? and why does the
graph/test end at 10,5v ? OR - is the test at a calibrated 5.0A 'till
10,5v ?
Charles
> List member Steve Stearns has donated an
> excellent candidate for evaluating performance
> of a new BatteryMinder Plus that claims to
> include 'de-sulfation' technology. The nameplate
> rating is 20 a.h. and claims to be a 'deep
> cycle' device.
>
> I benchmarked Steve's battery and collected
> the following data plot:
>
>
> Emacs!
> I'll put it on the BatteryMinder's maintenance mode and see what the
> critter looks
> like in about 60 days. Watch this space.
>
> Bob . . .
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Battery Minder evaulation |
At 11:55 AM 5/12/2019, you wrote:
>Hi, Bob
>
>Could you explain your graph a bit for me .. I am confused by the
>caption "9Volt, 15Sec, 120A" - and the top line "5.0A Discharge" -
>are you discharging at 120A for 15 seconds, or to 9Volts ? and why
>does the graph/test end at 10,5v ? OR - is the test at a calibrated
>5.0A 'till 10,5v ?
That's the data-gathering shorthand . . .
First discharge was 5A constant current
which produced the green plot and
shows energy content in the battery
as it arrived here.
The other two plots were taken after
a legacy constant current/constant voltage
recharge with top-off interval.
A after a third recharge, I did a load
test where the battery was loaded to
9 volts for 15 seconds after which the
current being delivered was 120 amps.
It only took a few minutes back on the
charger to top it off again.
At that point, I put it on the BatteryMinder+
in the 'maintenance' mode. I'm getting
some data gathered on this particular
product's electrical 'pixie dust' purported
to 'de-sulfate' the battery.
I'll publish pictures of first observations
in a day or so . . . as soon as I get about 4
computers polished up and out of here . . .
Speaking of things to do . . . see attached
photo. I probably won't be working on the
pickup just visible past the left edge of
the building. Had some frog-strangler rains
up north a few days ago. Medicine River just
west of town came out of the banks and flooded
a mechanic's shop where a friend of mine had
taken his pickup truck for some routine maintenance.
Hard to see in photo but water is up to window
sills on Kenton's truck. There are numerous
pieces of heavy equipment parked around this shop
in similar predicaments. I only attached photo
instead of embedding. Any digest subscribers
have problems seeing this image?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: New Battery Minder evaulation |
I can see the picture just fine on the Matronics website.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772762
Usually a flooded vehicle is considered to be totaled because the wires and connections
become corroded.
--------
Joe Gores
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489182#489182
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| Subject: | Re: New Battery Minder evaulation |
I get individual emails; I got the image on my phone as an attachment=2E (S
ometimes I see different behavior depending on whether I'm viewing on phone
or computer=2E)
=81=A3Sent from BlueMail =8B
On May 12, 2019, 5
:17 PM, at 5:17 PM, "Robert L=2E Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls=2Ebob@aeroelectri
c=2Ecom> wrote:
>At 11:55 AM 5/12/2019, you wrote:
>
>>Hi, Bob
>>
>>Could y
ou explain your graph a bit for me =2E=2E I am confused by the
>>caption "
9Volt, 15Sec, 120A" - and the top line "5=2E0A Discharge" -
>>are you dis
charging at 120A for 15 seconds, or to 9Volts ? and why
>>does the graph/t
est end at 10,5v ? OR - is the test at a calibrated
>>5=2E0A 'till 10,5v ?
>
> That's the data-gathering shorthand =2E =2E =2E
>
> First discharg
e was 5A constant current
> which produced the green plot and
> shows e
nergy content in the battery
> as it arrived here=2E
>
> The other two
plots were taken after
> a legacy constant current/constant voltage
> r
echarge with top-off interval=2E
>
> A after a third recharge, I did a lo
ad
> test where the battery was loaded to
> 9 volts for 15 seconds afte
r which the
> current being delivered was 120 amps=2E
>
> It only took
a few minutes back on the
> charger to top it off again=2E
>
> At that
point, I put it on the BatteryMinder+
> in the 'maintenance' mode=2E I'm
getting
> some data gathered on this particular
> product's electrical
'pixie dust' purported
> to 'de-sulfate' the battery=2E
>
> I'll publi
sh pictures of first observations
> in a day or so =2E =2E =2E as soon as
I get about 4
> computers polished up and out of here =2E =2E =2E
>
>
Speaking of things to do =2E =2E =2E see attached
> photo=2E I probably w
on't be working on the
> pickup just visible past the left edge of
> th
e building=2E Had some frog-strangler rains
> up north a few days ago=2E
Medicine River just
> west of town came out of the banks and flooded
>
a mechanic's shop where a friend of mine had
> taken his pickup truck for
some routine maintenance=2E
>
> Hard to see in photo but water is up to
window
> sills on Kenton's truck=2E There are numerous
> pieces of heav
y equipment parked around this shop
> in similar predicaments=2E I only
attached photo
> instead of embedding=2E Any digest subscribers
> have
problems seeing this image?
>
>
> Bob =2E =2E =2E
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