---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/02/19: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:07 AM - Re: insulating boots for contactors (Ken Ryan) 2. 05:23 PM - Pin extract problem (Ron Burnett) 3. 05:48 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Alec Myers) 4. 06:00 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Ron Burnett) 5. 06:10 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Art Zemon) 6. 06:47 PM - Re: Pin extract problem () 7. 06:54 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Ron Burnett) 8. 07:00 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Ron Burnett) 9. 07:01 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Art Zemon) 10. 07:09 PM - Re: Pin extract problem (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:13 AM PST US From: Ken Ryan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: insulating boots for contactors Okay then! I'll forego the rubber boots. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:14 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 01:21 PM 7/1/2019, you wrote: > > What is the best way to insulate a positive contactor terminal with more > than one wire connected? The rubber insulating boots that I have seen are > made to be used with a single wire on the terminal. > > > I suggest you not worry about it. We had > some discussions about this waaayyy back when. > One builder suggested building a cover for the > contactor intended to shield 'dangerously > exposed terminals' from accidental contact/shorts. > > Bad idea . . . these critters run warm NORMALLY > and are designed to perform in 'open to > the environment' conditions. Any enclosure > could emulate a tiny oven where the contactor > is deprived of expected air flows. > > [image: Emacs!] > > Consider this picture I took on the A36 > production line at Beech. Talk about > spark-hazard-city! Yet, just like the > bus bars behind the breakers, these > are considered to be exceedingly unlikely > sources for sparks-in-the-dark . . . or > otherwise. > > > Bob . . . > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:57 PM PST US From: Ron Burnett Subject: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extracting tool. If I cant Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back into the crimped female pin? Thanks for any ideas Ron Burnett RV-6A May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:30 PM PST US From: Alec Myers Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem Wouldnt it be better to replace the connector shell? Theyre inexpensive. On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Ron Burnett wrote: I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extracting tool. If I cant Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back into the crimped female pin? Thanks for any ideas Ron Burnett RV-6A May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem From: Ron Burnett Alex, I thought about that but then I would have to extract all the pins. Dont seem to have much luck with Radio Shack extractors. Maybe only solution. Thanks, Ron Burnett May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Alec Myers wrote: > > > Wouldnt it be better to replace the connector shell? Theyre inexpensive. > > > > On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Ron Burnett wrote: > > > I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extracting tool. > > If I cant Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back into the crimped female pin? > > Thanks for any ideas > > Ron Burnett > RV-6A > > May you have the Lord's blessings today! > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:35 PM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem I can probably get that out out for you, Ron. Give me a call -- Art Z. Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 7:38 PM Ron Burnett wrote: > ronburnett@charter.net> > > I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is stil l > in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack > extracting tool. > > If I can=99t Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back int o the > crimped female pin? > > Thanks for any ideas > > Ron Burnett > RV-6A > > May you have the Lord's blessings today! > Sent from my iPad > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:00 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem I imagine that your problem is that you now cannot grip the female pin from the rear. Insert the extraction tool and push with a male pin into the female pin and that should push the female pin out with the tool Hope this helps -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Ron Burnett Sent: July 2, 2019 5:23 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem --> I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extracting tool. If I cant Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back into the crimped female pin? Thanks for any ideas Ron Burnett RV-6A May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem From: Ron Burnett Art, I can fly the plane this way. I can fly somewhere to meet you after the 4th. M71 where I am based is inconvenient. Your skills have far exceeded mine. Thanks Ron Burnett May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > > I can probably get that out out for you, Ron. Give me a call > > -- Art Z. > > Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos. > >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019, 7:38 PM Ron Burnett wrote: net> >> >> I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is stil l in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extr acting tool. >> >> If I can=99t Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back int o the crimped female pin? >> >> Thanks for any ideas >> >> Ron Burnett >> RV-6A >> >> May you have the Lord's blessings today! >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ========== >> - >> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution >> ========== >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem From: Ron Burnett Mike, Will give it a try when I can. Sounds like it might work. Ashamed I didnt think of it. Thanks Ron Burnett May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:45 PM, wrote: > > > I imagine that your problem is that you now cannot grip the female pin from the rear. > Insert the extraction tool and push with a male pin into the female pin and that should push the female pin out with the tool > Hope this helps > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com On Behalf Of Ron Burnett > Sent: July 2, 2019 5:23 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem > > --> > > I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack extracting tool. > > If I cant Extract it, is there a way to solder the wire back into the crimped female pin? > > Thanks for any ideas > > Ron Burnett > RV-6A > > May you have the Lord's blessings today! > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:04 PM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem Ron, I'm done mowing the lawn now so I'm allowed to sit down at my laptop and type a real reply to you. :-) First, use one of the extraction tools made out of metal. If your Radio Shack tool is all plastic, it is much harder to get the job done and it might not work at all. Slide the extraction end of the tool around the pin. That is the more round end. The insertion end is more open, more like a spoon. See http://www.steinair.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/SAT-023-CONTACT-INSERTION-REMOVAL-TOOL.pdf After the tool clicks home, grab the pin itself with tweezers or small needle nose pliers and push the pin out. If the tool is in place and has compressed the barbs, the pin will slide out with minimal force. If the pin doesn't slide out, remove the tool, rotate it 90 degrees or so, and try again. Or give me a holler and I'll drive over and do it for you. Cheers, -- Art Z. On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:38 PM Ron Burnett wrote: > ronburnett@charter.net> > > I managed to have a wire pull out of its crimped female pin which is still > in the #14 slot in a 25 pin D-sub. Have had no luck with Radio Shack > extracting tool. -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *Pray as if everything depends on God. Act as if everything depends on you.* ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:49 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pin extract problem At 07:37 PM 7/2/2019, you wrote: > >Wouldn=99t it be better to replace the connector shell? They=99 re inexpensive. Agreed. Also, consider acquiring one of these tools: Specs at: https://tinyurl.com/y272xsku You can buy replacement tips from Digikey too Emacs! from Digikey at: https://tinyurl.com/y6f6p9uu This is the one I carried at Beech for years; works with a broad range of connectors . . . including D-sub 20 and 22s Bob . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.