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Sat 10/19/19


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:12 AM - food machinery (asha31)
     2. 09:54 AM - Soldering to a Solid Wire (Sebastien)
     3. 12:20 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (Alec Myers)
     4. 01:28 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (Charlie England)
     5. 02:48 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (johnbright)
     6. 03:01 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (Art Zemon)
     7. 04:10 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (Jan de Jong)
     8. 04:59 PM - Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire (Sebastien)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:12:43 AM PST US
    Subject: food machinery
    From: "asha31" <ashanegi3902@gmail.com>
    What is food machinery ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491869#491869


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    Time: 09:54:42 AM PST US
    From: Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com>
    Subject: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and needed to connect some very small wires that came with the new tach to a couple resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp because of how small the wires are. It was only halfway through that I realized I should have asked around to see if there is a proper way of doing this. I didn't find anything in the AEC or 43-13. Is this good? [image: IMG_20191004_105557.jpg]


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    Time: 12:20:35 PM PST US
    From: Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com>
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    If youre looking for published standards, you could look at section 19 of this document: https://standards.nasa.gov/standard/nasa/nasa-std-87394 Its title is "WORKMANSHIP STANDARD FOR CRIMPING, INTERCONNECTING CABLES, HARNESSES, AND WIRING" On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com> wrote: I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and needed to connect some very small wires that came with the new tach to a couple resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp because of how small the wires are. It was only halfway through that I realized I should have asked around to see if there is a proper way of doing this. I didn't find anything in the AEC or 43-13. Is this good? <IMG_20191004_105557.jpg>


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    Time: 01:28:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    On 10/19/2019 11:52 AM, Sebastien wrote: > I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and needed > to connect some very small wires that came with the new tach to a > couple resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp because of how > small the wires are. It was only halfway through that I realized I > should have asked around to see if there is a proper way of doing > this. I didn't find anything in the AEC or 43-13. > > Is this good? > > IMG_20191004_105557.jpg The joints look fine. I'd only suggest that you can get by with a lot less bare wire. Multiple ways to do it; twisting like you did (but over maybe 1/4-1/2 inch), or by bending a couple of tiny 'fish hooks', linking them, and then crimping them slightly to stabilize them while you solder. Most texts make a big deal of making a strong mechanical joint and just using solder to make the electrical connection, but reality is that if you can keep the two wires stable while you solder, you can just have them touching and overlapping over a 1/4-3/8" length, the resulting joint would likely survive pulling the resistor apart, pulling on its other lead. Making a mechanically strong joint does more for creating a high quality soldering operation (especially for novice 'iron workers') than for joint strength. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 02:48:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    From: "johnbright" <john_s_bright@yahoo.com>
    Bob's Shop Notes: Soldered Lap Splicing of Wires http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Solder_Lap_Splicing/Solder_Lap_Splices.html Some Bob photos at http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/In_Line_Resistor/ -------- John Bright, RV-6A 25088, at FWF O-360, 8.5:1, vert sump, dual SDSEFI EM-5-F Z-14 modified for EFI Newport News, Va Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=491873#491873


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    Time: 03:01:48 PM PST US
    From: Art Zemon <art@zemon.name>
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    Sebastien, That looks pretty darned sturdy to me! I think that the resistor will disintegrate long before the joint does. I would have done something much shorter, adapting this technique: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/PM_Solder_Sleeve/PM_Solder_Sleeve.html Cheers, -- Art Z. On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:39 PM Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com> wrote: > I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and needed to > connect some very small wires that came with the new tach to a couple > resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp because of how small the > wires are. It was only halfway through that I realized I should have asked > around to see if there is a proper way of doing this. I didn't find > anything in the AEC or 43-13. > > Is this good? > > [image: IMG_20191004_105557.jpg] > -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. *Deut. 10:19


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    Time: 04:10:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    From: Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl>
    Soldering looks more than fine, but focus should be on mechanical robustness under vibration: 1. make the stiff section as short as possible 2. flexible multistrand wire on either side of this 3. cover with multiple layers of heat shrink. See also: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/In_Line_Resistor/ On 19-10-2019 23:59, Art Zemon wrote: > Sebastien, > > That looks pretty darned sturdy to me! I think that the resistor will > disintegrate long before the joint does. > > I would have done something much shorter, adapting this technique: > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/PM_Solder_Sleeve/PM_Solder_Sleeve.html > > Cheers, > -- Art Z. > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:39 PM Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com > <mailto:cluros@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and > needed to connect some very small wires that came with the new > tach to a couple resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp > because of how small the wires are. It was only halfway through > that I realized I should have asked around to see if there is a > proper way of doing this. I didn't find anything in the AEC or 43-13. > > Is this good? > > IMG_20191004_105557.jpg > > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > /Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. /Deut. > 10:19


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    Time: 04:59:56 PM PST US
    From: Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Soldering to a Solid Wire
    Thanks Art and Alec. I really like that pm solder sleeve idea, looks great and would have worked well here. I'll try it next time. After all, solder costs money. On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 3:13 PM Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> wrote: > Sebastien, > > That looks pretty darned sturdy to me! I think that the resistor will > disintegrate long before the joint does. > > I would have done something much shorter, adapting this technique: > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/PM_Solder_Sleeve/PM_Solder_Sleeve.html > > Cheers, > -- Art Z. > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:39 PM Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I replaced my mechanical tach with a digital one last week and needed to >> connect some very small wires that came with the new tach to a couple >> resistors. Decided to solder rather than crimp because of how small the >> wires are. It was only halfway through that I realized I should have asked >> around to see if there is a proper way of doing this. I didn't find >> anything in the AEC or 43-13. >> >> Is this good? >> >> [image: IMG_20191004_105557.jpg] >> > > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > *Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. *Deut. > 10:19 >




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