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Mon 12/16/19


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 08:14 AM - Re: ATO vs ATC fuses (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: Alternator stops working at low idle RPM (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Next generation wig-wag controller for LED lamps (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 10:14 AM - Re: Switch ratings? (David Saylor)
     5. 10:16 AM - Re: Alternator stops working at low idle RPM (Argonaut36)
     6. 11:22 AM - Re: Switch ratings? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     7. 02:03 PM - Re: Switch ratings? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:14:20 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: ATO vs ATC fuses
    At 12:32 AM 12/16/2019, you wrote: >Actually Bob Z-15 was what I was thinking of. >Each of those fuse blocks has 12 fused power and >12 ground terminals. One block would be the >endurance bus / avionics ground bus and the >other block would be the main bus / panel ground >bus. Although doing it that way I would connect >the two ground busses with a braided cable >instead of the 5x20awg on the diagram. Why does >Z-15 have 5x20awg instead of a bonding strap? The avionics ground is up on the panel adjacent to the radios and other electro-whizzies. http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Grounding/AGB_V.jpg http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Grounding/AVG_RA.jpg since is built up of crimp-on, 20AWG pins, the 5-wire bundle seems a whole lot cleaner than trying to grab onto it with anything else. But one could solder a braided strap to the back-side . . . either works good and lasts a long time. >In any case, if I do rewire the plane I think >I'll stick to the fuse=C2 blocks with tabs instead of screws Recommend THREADED TERMINATIONS be avoided as much as possible. Robustness of small threaded fasteners are a pain-n-the-uknow-what to assemble and process sensitive for longevity and they drive up parts count. The fast-on is simple, elegant and has an excellent service record. > . . . (none of my avionics would need a separate ground bus . . . The idea behind the avionics ground is to provide a LOCAL ground for all panel mounted electro-whizzies service by a single, robust jumper to airframe system grounds on firewall. Bob . . .


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    Time: 08:14:28 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternator stops working at low idle RPM
    > Two bad alternators is possible, but not very likely. This leaves > the voltage regulator and the wiring. agreed . . . and 95% probability its the regulator Bob . . .


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    Time: 08:16:30 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Next generation wig-wag controller for LED
    lamps At 09:48 PM 12/15/2019, you wrote: > >oh,it is a good idea.Good ideas are just for everyone to share. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >My stepper motor website:skysmotor.com (https://www.skysmotor.com/) >- Machinery Design ? - ? Stepper Moter Development > >"Necessity is the mother of invention." - Author unknown. INTERLOPER . . . IGNORE Bob . . .


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    Time: 10:14:11 AM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@GMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Re: Switch ratings?
    On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 19:39 Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 11:19 PM 12/13/2019, you wrote: > > Are switch=C3=82 ratings related to power?=C3=82 I'm wondering if I can assume that > a 12A/28VDC rating would be equivalent to a 24A/12VDC rating.=C3=82 The =C3=82 > switch=C3=82 I'm interested in is rated at 125VAC and 28VDC but not 14V. =C3=82 Is > 24A a safe assumption at 14V?=C3=82 Or is there more to it?=C3=82 This is the > switch:=C3=82 =C3=82 https://www.mcmaster.com/7337k98 > > --Dave > > > >>but why this one? It's rather expensive. > I want the locking feature, and to match some existing hardware. If I bus two poles together can I assume each works half as hard? Or pretty close? I=99m running something like an endurance bus. My worst case load is near 20A. I realize that the switch most likely wouldn=99t be swung in th at condition so arcing isn't much concern. And that load would require comm and transponder xmitting, and the AP and trim at full steam in three axes. I=99m not in production. A few $$ is a drop in the bucket. Which bring up another question: although the AP motor loads are relatively small, do the steppers create a traditional inductive load? Or can I just lump them in with the more significant resistive loads? =94Dave > >


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    Time: 10:16:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alternator stops working at low idle RPM
    From: "Argonaut36" <fmlibrino@msn.com>
    Bob, Thanks to you and all members that have provided help. I will post updates on the developments Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=493861#493861


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    Time: 11:22:27 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Switch ratings?
    > > >I want the locking feature, and to match some existing hardware. > >If I bus two poles together can I assume each >works half as hard?=C2 Or pretty close? No . . .but not worth worrying about . . . >I=99m running something like an endurance >bus.=C2 My worst case load is near 20A.=C2 I >realize that the switch most likely wouldn=99t >be swung in that condition so arcing isn't much >concern.=C2 And that load would require comm and >transponder xmitting, and the AP and trim at >full steam in three axes. I=99m not in >production.=C2 A few $$ is a drop in the bucket.=C2 Go ahead and wire it in . . .paralleled poles if you wish . . . won't make any difference but won't hurt anything either. >Which bring up another question: although the AP >motor loads are relatively small, do the >steppers create a traditional inductive >load?=C2 Or can I just lump them in with the more significant =C2 resistive loads? In this application, your machinations over ratings are not useful. Drive ahead with confidence. The ratings are predicated on thousands of operations at some current load combined with reactive features. The CARRY current of any switch is a lot higher than rated SWITCHING currents. Consider the 70A rated devices used as battery master contactors for nearly 100 years. Bob . . .


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    Time: 02:03:53 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Switch ratings?
    >>I=99m running something like an endurance >>bus.=C2 My worst case load is near 20A.=C2 Is this a DUAL feed bus? Bob . . .




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