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1. 06:26 AM - Re: E-mail (Charlie England)
2. 07:49 AM - E-mail (Robert Paulk)
3. 08:27 AM - Re: E-mail (Charlie England)
4. 10:03 AM - Re: E-mail (Art Zemon)
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I did the same thing for VAF forum *notifications*, and get the same result
in the notification emails. But have never had that issue (what Art
describes) with individual emails from any Matronics list where I'm a
member.
If you communicate with Matt about the problem, be sure to tell him how you
read the list.
Charlie
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 7:13 PM Pat Little <roughleg@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have set up a filter in gmail to not put into spam any messages from th
e
> aeroelectric list. So they all go into my inbox, but Google sometimes add
s
> a note at the top of a message saying it would have gone into the spam
> folder except that I had the filter in place to keep it out. It looks lik
e
> this
> [image: image.png]
> Here's what the filter looks like, if anybody wants to do the same:
> [image: image.png]
> and to set it up here is the first step:
> [image: image.png]
> and here is the second:
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:56 AM Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I get the list via individual emails (gmail address), and almost never
>> have issues getting them without errors. Occasionally, I'll find Matroni
cs
>> emails in my spam/junk folders, but they'll typically be from a particul
ar
>> thread, so I've assumed that it was triggered by a subject line that the
>> spam filters saw as suspicious.
>>
>> Perhaps the notification emails for those who subscribed through the
>> forum are the issue? I monitor the Vans Air Force forum, and that forum'
s
>> notification emails have triggered gmail's spoofing filters for *years*.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On 1/11/2020 9:10 AM, John M Tipton wrote:
>>
>> That explains why I have to go to my =98junk=99 mail box to
collect most of
>> my emails from the forum
>>
>> John (UK)
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> ----x--O--x----
>>
>> On 11 Jan 2020, at 1:48 pm, Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> <art@zemon.name>
>> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB
>> Bobby,
>>
>> I ran mailing list servers similar to what the AeroElectric list uses fo
r
>> over 30 years. The problem is that the Matronics server is incorrectly
>> handling the SMTP headers. It is using a technique which was OK a decade
>> ago but is now considered to be spoofing (a polite way of saying "forgin
g")
>> the identity of the sender. Because of this, most email systems consider
>> messages coming from the AeroElectric list to be spam.
>>
>> This is what a message looks like in Gmail:
>>
>> <Screenshot 2020-01-11 at 7.25.05 AM.png>
>>
>>
>> At least Gmail delivers the messages (most of the time). Comcast is
>> probably dumping them into the spam bucket.
>>
>> You cannot fix this. The fix has to be done by the folks who run the
>> mailing list server.
>>
>> -- Art Z.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM Robert Paulk <2bpaulk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering how many others on this list are having trouble
>>> receiving their emails by a server other than G-Mail. Comcast has been
>>> intermittent and I am now not receiving them at all. I have spent seve
ral
>>> hours on the phone and had several case numbers assigned to no avail. M
att
>>> recommended G-mail and I have not had any problems since changing over
but
>>> would like to keep it all in one server. I am not sure that Comcast eve
n
>>> delivered this notice back to this list.
>>> Thanks for any information you can provide.
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/
>>
>> *Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. *Deut.
>> 10:19
>>
>>
>>
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Art
Thanks you very much for the info.
I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them my
displeasure.
He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us not
receiving our email.
If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much
trouble maybe he could fix it.
Thanks again,
"Analog guy in a digital world"
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On 1/12/2020 9:47 AM, Robert Paulk wrote:
> Art
> Thanks you very much for the info.
> I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them
> my displeasure.
> He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us
> not receiving our email.
> If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much
> trouble maybe he could fix it.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> "Analog guy in a digital world"
Do I detect a Guy Clark fan?
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I have emailed Matt several times over the last few years about the mailing
list servers he runs. He has never replied.
-- Art Z.
Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 AM Robert Paulk <2bpaulk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Art
> Thanks you very much for the info.
> I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them my
> displeasure.
> He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us not
> receiving our email.
> If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much
> trouble maybe he could fix it.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> "Analog guy in a digital world"
>
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