---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/12/20: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:26 AM - Re: E-mail (Charlie England) 2. 07:49 AM - E-mail (Robert Paulk) 3. 08:27 AM - Re: E-mail (Charlie England) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: E-mail (Art Zemon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:05 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: E-mail I did the same thing for VAF forum *notifications*, and get the same result in the notification emails. But have never had that issue (what Art describes) with individual emails from any Matronics list where I'm a member. If you communicate with Matt about the problem, be sure to tell him how you read the list. Charlie On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 7:13 PM Pat Little wrote: > I have set up a filter in gmail to not put into spam any messages from th e > aeroelectric list. So they all go into my inbox, but Google sometimes add s > a note at the top of a message saying it would have gone into the spam > folder except that I had the filter in place to keep it out. It looks lik e > this > [image: image.png] > Here's what the filter looks like, if anybody wants to do the same: > [image: image.png] > and to set it up here is the first step: > [image: image.png] > and here is the second: > [image: image.png] > > > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:56 AM Charlie England > wrote: > >> I get the list via individual emails (gmail address), and almost never >> have issues getting them without errors. Occasionally, I'll find Matroni cs >> emails in my spam/junk folders, but they'll typically be from a particul ar >> thread, so I've assumed that it was triggered by a subject line that the >> spam filters saw as suspicious. >> >> Perhaps the notification emails for those who subscribed through the >> forum are the issue? I monitor the Vans Air Force forum, and that forum' s >> notification emails have triggered gmail's spoofing filters for *years*. >> >> Charlie >> >> On 1/11/2020 9:10 AM, John M Tipton wrote: >> >> That explains why I have to go to my =98junk=99 mail box to collect most of >> my emails from the forum >> >> John (UK) >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> ----x--O--x---- >> >> On 11 Jan 2020, at 1:48 pm, Art Zemon >> wrote: >> >> =EF=BB >> Bobby, >> >> I ran mailing list servers similar to what the AeroElectric list uses fo r >> over 30 years. The problem is that the Matronics server is incorrectly >> handling the SMTP headers. It is using a technique which was OK a decade >> ago but is now considered to be spoofing (a polite way of saying "forgin g") >> the identity of the sender. Because of this, most email systems consider >> messages coming from the AeroElectric list to be spam. >> >> This is what a message looks like in Gmail: >> >> >> >> >> At least Gmail delivers the messages (most of the time). Comcast is >> probably dumping them into the spam bucket. >> >> You cannot fix this. The fix has to be done by the folks who run the >> mailing list server. >> >> -- Art Z. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM Robert Paulk <2bpaulk@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was wondering how many others on this list are having trouble >>> receiving their emails by a server other than G-Mail. Comcast has been >>> intermittent and I am now not receiving them at all. I have spent seve ral >>> hours on the phone and had several case numbers assigned to no avail. M att >>> recommended G-mail and I have not had any problems since changing over but >>> would like to keep it all in one server. I am not sure that Comcast eve n >>> delivered this notice back to this list. >>> Thanks for any information you can provide. >>> Bobby >>> >> >> >> -- >> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ >> >> *Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. *Deut. >> 10:19 >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:14 AM PST US From: Robert Paulk <2bpaulk@gmail.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: E-mail Art Thanks you very much for the info. I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them my displeasure. He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us not receiving our email. If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much trouble maybe he could fix it. Thanks again, "Analog guy in a digital world" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: E-mail From: Charlie England On 1/12/2020 9:47 AM, Robert Paulk wrote: > Art > Thanks you very much for the info. > I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them > my displeasure. > He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us > not receiving our email. > If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much > trouble maybe he could fix it. > > Thanks again, > > "Analog guy in a digital world" Do I detect a Guy Clark fan? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:14 AM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: E-mail I have emailed Matt several times over the last few years about the mailing list servers he runs. He has never replied. -- Art Z. Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 AM Robert Paulk <2bpaulk@gmail.com> wrote: > Art > Thanks you very much for the info. > I have since talked to a Comcast representative after e-mailing them my > displeasure. > He said the same thing as you, that it was the sender's fault for us not > receiving our email. > If you get a chance would you to mention it to Matt and if not to much > trouble maybe he could fix it. > > Thanks again, > > "Analog guy in a digital world" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.