---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/14/20: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:13 AM - David Clark Stereo wiring (John M Tipton) 2. 08:42 AM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 09:08 AM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (Eric Page) 4. 09:13 AM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (John M Tipton) 5. 10:34 AM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (John M Tipton) 6. 11:11 AM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (John M Tipton) 7. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (Charlie England) 8. 12:01 PM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (Eric Page) 9. 01:10 PM - Re: David Clark Stereo wiring (John M Tipton) 10. 07:51 PM - How to Install Amphenol Connex 122430 (Art Zemon) 11. 08:11 PM - Re: How to Install Amphenol Connex 122430 (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:50 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring From: "John M Tipton" Hi Guys Where can I find the wiring diagram for a DC stereo headset, the small dia. plug has tip, two rings and the barrel, I have the corresponding panel socket (three contacts plus barrel, I need schematic for the socket wiring. John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494277#494277 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:06 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring At 10:11 AM 1/14/2020, you wrote: > > >Hi Guys > >Where can I find the wiring diagram for a DC stereo headset, the >small dia. plug has tip, two rings and the barrel, I have the >corresponding panel socket (three contacts plus barrel, I need >schematic for the socket wiring. > >John > What is the model number of the headset? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:34 AM PST US From: Eric Page Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/micjack/micjack.html > On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:11 AM, John M Tipton wrot e: > > Hi Guys > > Where can I find the wiring diagram for a DC stereo headset, the small dia . plug has tip, two rings and the barrel, I have the corresponding panel soc ket (three contacts plus barrel, I need schematic for the socket wiring. > > John ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:55 AM PST US From: John M Tipton Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring H10-13.4 & H10-13X, the radio/com is a Trig TY96 John Sent from my iPad ----x--O--x---- > On 14 Jan 2020, at 4:57 pm, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > =EF=BB At 10:11 AM 1/14/2020, you wrote: tmail.com> >> >> Hi Guys >> >> Where can I find the wiring diagram for a DC stereo headset, the small di a. plug has tip, two rings and the barrel, I have the corresponding panel so cket (three contacts plus barrel, I need schematic for the socket wiring. >> >> John >> > > > What is the model number of the headset? > > Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:09 AM PST US From: John M Tipton Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring Unless I=99m missing something Eric, that circuit is relating to a =98Mike=99 and PTT circuit, nothing to do with a stereo headphone. John Sent from my iPad ----x--O--x---- > On 14 Jan 2020, at 5:22 pm, Eric Page wrote: > > =EF=BB > See: > > http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/micjack/micjack.html > > >> On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:11 AM, John M Tipton wro te: >> >> Hi Guys >> >> Where can I find the wiring diagram for a DC stereo headset, the small di a. plug has tip, two rings and the barrel, I have the corresponding panel so cket (three contacts plus barrel, I need schematic for the socket wiring. >> >> John ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:35 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: David Clark Stereo wiring From: "John M Tipton" Sorry guys, I've got this completely wrong way round on the Mike/Headphone situation: so Question, how do I wire up the 1/4" plug for stereo John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494285#494285 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: David Clark Stereo wiring From: Charlie England On 1/14/2020 1:09 PM, John M Tipton wrote: > > Sorry guys, > > I've got this completely wrong way round on the Mike/Headphone situation: so Question, how do I wire up the 1/4" plug for stereo > > John > > Image result for stereo headphone wiring Above is standard stereo wiring for a 1/4" phone plug. Wiring terminals on the mating jack is kinda tricky to describe, but not complicated. For a novice, the easiest way to ID the terminals is to insert a stereo plug (see above) into the jack, and use an ohm meter to ID continuity from each terminal on the plug, to each terminal on the jack. Charlie ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:42 PM PST US From: Eric Page Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring Sorry about that, John.=C2- When you wrote "small diameter plug" and "tw o rings," I thought you were talking about the mic plug.=C2- The industry standard mic plug is a 4-conductor TRRS plug of 0.206" diameter (p/n PJ-06 8), while the headphone is a 3-conductor TRS plug of 0.25" diameter (p/n PJ -055). According to their data sheets... http://www.davidclarkcompany.com/files/literature/10-13.4.pdf andhttp://www.davidclarkcompany.com/files/literature/H10-13X.pdf ...both of your headsets use the standard 1/4" PJ-055 stereo headphone plug .=C2- As for which contact is left and which is right, perhaps Bob knows the standard in aviation.=C2- Internet searching produces plenty of image s, some showing tip=left and ring=right, others showing the opposite. =C2- The only consistent feature is ground=sleeve. A quick experiment will quickly reveal which way your headsets are wired. =C2- With the headset over your ears, hold the negative side of a 1.5V ba ttery (coin, AA, AAA) to the sleeve and use a wire connected to the positiv e side to alternately tap the tip and ring of the headset's plug.=C2- You 'll know from the static which contact is which.=C2- Using this test, my Clarity Aloft is wired tip=left and ring=right. Eric On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 10:53:34 AM PST, John M Tipton wrote: Unless I=99m missing something Eric, that circuit is relating to a =98Mike=99 and PTT circuit, nothing to do with a stereo headpho ne. John ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:36 PM PST US From: John M Tipton Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: David Clark Stereo wiring Thank you, that clarifies it John Sent from my iPad ----x--O--x---- > On 14 Jan 2020, at 8:16 pm, Eric Page wrote: > > =EF=BB > Sorry about that, John. When you wrote "small diameter plug" and "two rin gs," I thought you were talking about the mic plug. The industry standard m ic plug is a 4-conductor TRRS plug of 0.206" diameter (p/n PJ-068), while th e headphone is a 3-conductor TRS plug of 0.25" diameter (p/n PJ-055). > > According to their data sheets... > > http://www.davidclarkcompany.com/files/literature/10-13.4.pdf > and > http://www.davidclarkcompany.com/files/literature/H10-13X.pdf > > ...both of your headsets use the standard 1/4" PJ-055 stereo headphone plu g. As for which contact is left and which is right, perhaps Bob knows the s tandard in aviation. Internet searching produces plenty of images, some sho wing tip=left and ring=right, others showing the opposite. The only con sistent feature is ground=sleeve. > > A quick experiment will quickly reveal which way your headsets are wired. With the headset over your ears, hold the negative side of a 1.5V battery ( coin, AA, AAA) to the sleeve and use a wire connected to the positive side t o alternately tap the tip and ring of the headset's plug. You'll know from t he static which contact is which. Using this test, my Clarity Aloft is wire d tip=left and ring=right. > > Eric > > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 10:53:34 AM PST, John M Tipton wrote: > > Unless I=99m missing something Eric, that circuit is relating to a =98Mike=99 and PTT circuit, nothing to do with a stereo headphone. > > John ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:41 PM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: AeroElectric-List: How to Install Amphenol Connex 122430 Help! I bought a 90-degree TNC connector from Aircraft Spruce. It's an Amphenol Connex 122430 https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15368.php and https://www.amphenolrf.com/122430-10.html Amphenol's page says that the "contact termination style" is "solder." From the way that the connector is built, it is clear to me that I should solder the center conductor. No problem. My question: Should I also solder the shield in some way and, if so, how? Or is crimping that sufficient? We have one afternoon of warm weather tomorrow so I plan to head out to the airport and finish installing my Garmin GPS 175. Thanks, -- Art Z. -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. *Deut. 10:19 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: How to Install Amphenol Connex 122430 From: Charlie England On 1/14/2020 9:44 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Help! > > I bought a 90-degree TNC connector from Aircraft Spruce. It's an > Amphenol Connex 122430 > https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15368.php > and > https://www.amphenolrf.com/122430-10.html > > Amphenol's page says that the "contact termination style" is "solder." > From the way that the connector is built, it is clear to me that I > should solder the center conductor. No problem. > > My question: Should I also solder the shield in some way and, if so, > how? Or is crimping that sufficient? > > We have one afternoon of warm weather tomorrow so I plan to head out > to the airport and finish installing my Garmin GPS 175. > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > /Love the stranger for you yourselves were strangers in Egypt. /Deut. > 10:19 That style connector expects that the barrel in the left of the pic will be placed over the coax prior to stripping and soldering. The outer insulation and braid shield should be cut back just enough to allow the center conductor to just reach the center pin in the connector. The center insulator should be trimmed just enough to allow the center conductor to reach the center pin. The knurled barrel pointed left in the pic will be inserted between the coax center insulation and shield, and after soldering the center conductor to the center pin, the outer barrel is slid down against the body of the connector and crimped. The ground connection is made between the knurled surface (mentioned earlier) and the shield braid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.