---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/05/20: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:16 AM - Re: Testing a strobe tube ? (Gilles Thesee) 2. 05:54 PM - portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Charlie England) 3. 06:34 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (William Greenley) 4. 06:38 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Art Zemon) 5. 07:26 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Eric Page) 6. 07:36 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Charlie England) 7. 07:44 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Charlie England) 8. 09:37 PM - Re: contact call support (pallaviparker) 9. 10:50 PM - Re: Protecting the fat wires (Whiteleg) 10. 11:14 PM - Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? (Rob Turk) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Testing a strobe tube ? From: Gilles Thesee /Le 04/02/2020 23:50, Robert L. Nuckolls, III a crit:// / > // /// > //There's no really quick/n/dirty way// > // to test these critters other than to// > // plug it into a functioning system.// > // > // Given that its an out-of-the-box offering,// > // the risks are low.// > / Bob and Ernest, Thank you for answering. Passing on the info to my buddy's wife. -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:54 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: AeroElectric-List: portable oscilloscope recommendations? Hi, I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. Spent more time bringing it out of hibernation than actually using it, and it occurred to me that at today's prices, an el-cheapo solid state scope might make sense to have next to the digital meters (or maybe, in place of...). Anyone here tried any of the sub-$100 models, or even the sub-$50 versions? Obviously not looking for lab grade here, just something mainly to detect signal presence/absence. Thanks, Charlie ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:47 PM PST US From: William Greenley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable oscilloscope recommendations? I have use the pokit meter from https://pokitmeter.com/ Multimeter, single channel scope and data logger, uses your phone as a display. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:00 PM Charlie England wrote: > ceengland7@gmail.com> > > Hi, > > I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old > Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. Spent more time > bringing it out of hibernation than actually using it, and it occurred > to me that at today's prices, an el-cheapo solid state scope might make > sense to have next to the digital meters (or maybe, in place of...). > > Anyone here tried any of the sub-$100 models, or even the sub-$50 > versions? Obviously not looking for lab grade here, just something > mainly to detect signal presence/absence. > > Thanks, > > Charlie > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:51 PM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable oscilloscope recommendations? Charlie, When I was debugging a serial port issue, my son borrowed a logic analyzer from his office and we connected it via USB to his laptop. When clipped to the TX and RX pins, it was able to decode and display the ASCII characters being transmitted. Much more useful than a simple oscilloscope would have been. See if you can find one of these logic analyzers that hooks up to a laptop. -- Art Z. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:11 PM Charlie England wrote: > ceengland7@gmail.com> > > Hi, > > I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old > Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. Spent more time > bringing it out of hibernation than actually using it, and it occurred > to me that at today's prices, an el-cheapo solid state scope might make > sense to have next to the digital meters (or maybe, in place of...). > > Anyone here tried any of the sub-$100 models, or even the sub-$50 > versions? Obviously not looking for lab grade here, just something > mainly to detect signal presence/absence. -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *Sooner meet a bereaved she-bear than a fool with his nonsense. *Proverbs 17:12 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:41 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: portable oscilloscope recommendations? From: "Eric Page" If you truly just want to see the presence or absence of a signal, one of the cheap 1-channel Chinese scopes work pretty well. I have one of these... http://www.ebay.com/itm/163807642144 ...and it's surprisingly decent for basic troubleshooting away from your bench. It's low-bandwidth and probably isn't very accurate, but it works to see if there's activity or not. If you want to decode a serial bus to see what's happening, this is a decent option at low cost: http://www.ebay.com/itm/123355594893 Or, if you want even cheaper, there's this option: http://www.ebay.com/itm/383085783631 Eric P.S. All three links are to the lowest cost U.S. seller. All are available cheaper from China if you want to wait a few weeks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=494665#494665 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable oscilloscope recommendations? From: Charlie England Hmmm... good thought. I might consider two instruments, instead of just one. A scope would have a wider application, though. Thanks for the idea. Charlie On 2/5/2020 8:34 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Charlie, > > When I was debugging a serial port issue, my son borrowed a logic > analyzer from his office and we connected it via USB to his laptop. > When clipped to the TX and RX pins, it was able to decode and display > the ASCII characters being transmitted. Much more useful than a simple > oscilloscopewould have been. See if you can find one of these logic > analyzers that hooks up to a laptop. > > -- Art Z. > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:11 PM Charlie England > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old > Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. Spent more > time > bringing it out of hibernation than actually using it, and it > occurred > to me that at today's prices, an el-cheapo solid state scope might > make > sense to have next to the digital meters (or maybe, in place of...). > > Anyone here tried any of the sub-$100 models, or even the sub-$50 > versions? Obviously not looking for lab grade here, just something > mainly to detect signal presence/absence. > > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > /Sooner meet a bereaved she-bear than a fool with his nonsense. > /Proverbs 17:12 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable oscilloscope recommendations? From: Charlie England Hmmm....I was more focused on a self contained instrument, but that path might actually be a better idea. I'll did through the site to evaluate. Thanks! Charlie On 2/5/2020 8:31 PM, William Greenley wrote: > I have use the pokit meter from https://pokitmeter.com/Multimeter, > single channel scope and data logger, uses your phone as a display. > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:00 PM Charlie England > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old > Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. 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From: Rob Turk That's the Rolls Royce option. Does it make sense to hunt for a logic analyzer when it will likely be sitting idle for the next decade? A simple multimeter with scope option is a lot cheaper and will get more use. Rob On 2/6/2020 4:32 AM, Charlie England wrote: > Hmmm... good thought. I might consider two instruments, instead of > just one. A scope would have a wider application, though. > > Thanks for the idea. > > Charlie > > On 2/5/2020 8:34 PM, Art Zemon wrote: >> Charlie, >> >> When I was debugging a serial port issue, my son borrowed a logic >> analyzer from his office and we connected it via USB to his laptop. >> When clipped to the TX and RX pins, it was able to decode and display >> the ASCII characters being transmitted. Much more useful than a >> simple oscilloscopewould have been. See if you can find one of these >> logic analyzers that hooks up to a laptop. >> >> -- Art Z. >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:11 PM Charlie England > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been troubleshooting a serial port issue, & fired up the old >> Telequipment scope for the 1st time in about a decade. Spent more >> time >> bringing it out of hibernation than actually using it, and it >> occurred >> to me that at today's prices, an el-cheapo solid state scope >> might make >> sense to have next to the digital meters (or maybe, in place of...). >> >> Anyone here tried any of the sub-$100 models, or even the sub-$50 >> versions? Obviously not looking for lab grade here, just something >> mainly to detect signal presence/absence. >> >> >> -- >> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ >> /Sooner meet a bereaved she-bear than a fool with his nonsense. >> /Proverbs 17:12 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.