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1. 04:55 AM - Technology and healthcare (Cameron Field)
2. 06:54 AM - SPAM on Matronics (user9253)
3. 08:31 AM - Re: New role for the E-Bus? (D Fritz)
4. 08:57 AM - Re: New role for the E-Bus? (user9253)
5. 10:10 AM - Re: SPAM on Matronics (Charlie England)
6. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Charlie England)
8. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Jeff Luckey)
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| Subject: | Technology and healthcare |
Technology is viewed as the main thrust behind enhancements in human services and,
when you take a gander at the pace of progress and late advancements, many
think that its hard not to concur with that perception.
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wellbeing IT.
Technology Improves Healthcare and Disease Control
The improvement of explicit programming programs implies that, for instance, the
World Health Organization has had the option to order ailments, their causes
and manifestations into an enormous database that includes in excess of 14,000
individual codes.
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We have seen numerous positive changes in wellbeing IT and hope to keep seeing
additionally energizing improvements later on!
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| Subject: | SPAM on Matronics |
I tried emailing Matt several times about spam on the AeroElectric List
and other Matronics lists, but he has not responded.
Maybe he will see this thread. Or maybe Bob N can contact Matt.
I believe that a single person or company is using several aliases listed below.
The spammer can be sneaky, inserting aviation related material to make his or her
post appear to be legitimate.
-
Matt,
The following threads are spam and need to be deleted:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=18994
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=29971
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=36956
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=45261
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=64853
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16765515
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768494
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768495
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768496
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768497
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768497
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768498
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770512
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16771914
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772546
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772753
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16773485
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774897
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774932
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774950
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774980
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16775011
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16775052
Please delete the following spammers who posted on the above threads:
AdilahBisar
Cameron Field
Isaac
jameslara
johnmathew
KatoGilliam
KennethAmpbell
MichealRobert
pallaviparker
stephen092
Verolla
Whiteleg
alisondaewon
fengqingxue
Jess
sofia_bow1994
tomarc365
tripathiankush
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Joe Gores
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| Subject: | RE: New role for the E-Bus? |
Bob,
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see the diagram you posted on this (I get
the "emacs" on the digest instead of a link). That said, it sounds like what
you're proposing would look an awful lot like the Z13/20 diagram that you toyed
with several years back. Would it provide the architecture we're looking for
in this?
Dan
For context:
"....However, if one wishes to honor both (1) legacy
crash safety goal of hitting the dirt with electrics
max cold and (2) independent feeds for the engine,
perhaps the E-Bus finds a new role in Z12 thusly:
Emacs!
I think this comes close to some alternatives
offered by others in recent days . . ."
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
You can view Bob's diagram here:
http://forums.matronics.com/files/43923f9_149.jpg
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Joe Gores
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| Subject: | Re: SPAM on Matronics |
On 2/21/2020 8:53 AM, user9253 wrote:
>
> I tried emailing Matt several times about spam on the AeroElectric List
> and other Matronics lists, but he has not responded.
> Maybe he will see this thread. Or maybe Bob N can contact Matt.
> I believe that a single person or company is using several aliases listed below.
> The spammer can be sneaky, inserting aviation related material to make his or
her post appear to be legitimate.
> -
> Matt,
> The following threads are spam and need to be deleted:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=18994
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=29971
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=36956
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=45261
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=64853
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16765515
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768494
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768495
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768496
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768497
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768497
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16768498
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16770512
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16771914
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772546
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772753
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16773485
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774897
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774932
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774950
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16774980
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16775011
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=16775052
>
> Please delete the following spammers who posted on the above threads:
>
> AdilahBisar
> Cameron Field
> Isaac
> jameslara
> johnmathew
> KatoGilliam
> KennethAmpbell
> MichealRobert
> pallaviparker
> stephen092
> Verolla
> Whiteleg
> alisondaewon
> fengqingxue
> Jess
> sofia_bow1994
> tomarc365
> tripathiankush
>
> --------
> Joe Gores
>
Spam is such a minor issue on the Matronics lists that I just tell my
email application to mark them as spam & move on. I use Thunderbird on
Windows7, BlueMail on my android phone, and Gmail's native web interface
if I'm on another computer. All will allow blocking spam, through
Gmail's 'smart' spam filtering. It can learn to block individual
senders, even if they come through an email portal like the Matronics
email lists.
Can't offer any advice on the forum format, since I don't use it.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>I would love to see that drawing because SDS recommends 10 A fuses
>for coilpacks and 15 A fuses for fuel pumps. The Walbro data sheet
>for the fuel pump shows 5.25 A per pump at 45 psi which is the SDS
>recommended pressure. SDS says the four cylinder coilpacks draw
>"just over 1 amp each in cruise at 2,400 rpm".
Let me see if I can dig that up again . . . I don't
know if I saved it after discovery a ten or so
days ago when we started this thread.
>In order to meet FAR 23.1361 I add relays for the pumps and coils at
>the engine bus.
How about configuring the engine bus as
shown in.
http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z01P2-Preliminary.pdf
Now you can run all engine loads through
separate protection and panel mounted switches
while still complying with the max-cold-
during-worst-landings design goal. No
at-the-bus disconnection necessary.
>How about connecting the aux alternator directly to the battery?
The reason for doing that in Z13/8 was to bypass
the battery contactor thus eliminating that parasitic
load during main-alt-out operations. Given that
we're not offered a much more robust (30A) pad-driven
alternator, such frugality is no longer useful. Hence,
the Z13/8 architecture gives way to Z-12. Simpler
and even holy-watered by the FAA!
I've been gathering some of our thoughts over recent
months into a proposed new Z-figure to replace
Z13 and Z12.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:57 PM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I would love to see that drawing because SDS recommends 10 A fuses for
> coilpacks and 15 A fuses for fuel pumps. The Walbro data sheet for the fuel
> pump shows 5.25 A per pump at 45 psi which is the SDS recommended pressure.
> SDS says the four cylinder coilpacks draw "just over 1 amp each in cruise
> at 2,400 rpm".
>
>
> Let me see if I can dig that up again . . . I don't
> know if I saved it after discovery a ten or so
> days ago when we started this thread.
>
> In order to meet FAR 23.1361 I add relays for the pumps and coils at the
> engine bus.
>
>
> How about configuring the engine bus as
> shown in.
>
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Adobe_Architecture_Pdfs/Z01P2-Preliminary.pdf
>
> Now you can run all engine loads through
> separate protection and panel mounted switches
> while still complying with the max-cold-
> during-worst-landings design goal. No
> at-the-bus disconnection necessary.
>
>
> How about connecting the aux alternator directly to the battery?
>
>
> The reason for doing that in Z13/8 was to bypass
> the battery contactor thus eliminating that parasitic
> load during main-alt-out operations. Given that
> we're not offered a much more robust (30A) pad-driven
> alternator, such frugality is no longer useful. Hence,
> the Z13/8 architecture gives way to Z-12. Simpler
> and even holy-watered by the FAA!
>
> I've been gathering some of our thoughts over recent
> months into a proposed new Z-figure to replace
> Z13 and Z12.
>
> Bob . . .
>
I'm on email delivery, and apparently I'm missing a significant % of forum
posts.
I'm not following the 'FAR 23' issue with relays at the engine bus for
downstream stuff. A fuse at the bus protects everything downstream of the
fuse.
When I did failure analysis for my single battery/dual alt, electrically
dependent alternative engine, it looked like any conventional arrangement
of dual alts with control fed by the main bus and B leads *to* the main
bus, would result in the loss of both alts if the master is turned off
('smoke in the cockpit'). I chose to route one alt's B lead directly to the
engine bus, making it effectively a dedicated electrical power source for
the engine, controlled via the engine bus. Goal was to preserve 'classical'
engine independence, and not depend on the limited energy in the battery to
complete the flight. There is still a cross-tie switch between engine and
main buses, to maintain alt failure redundancy. Is there a problem with
this approach?
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: RE: New role for the E-Bus? |
At 10:28 AM 2/21/2020, you wrote:
>
>Bob,
>Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see the diagram you posted on
>this (I get the "emacs" on the digest instead of a link). That
>said, it sounds like what you're proposing would look an awful lot
>like the Z13/20 diagram that you toyed with several years
>back. Would it provide the architecture we're looking for in this?
That one is already outdated. Go here
https://tinyurl.com/ukper7j
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: RE: New role for the E-Bus? |
Bob,
2 Questions:
1. why is a 30A fuse upstream of a 5A breaker for alternator field?2. why u
se a relay for the "clearance delivery" circuit?=C2-
-Jeff On Friday, February 21, 2020, 02:24:56 PM PST, Robert L. Nuckolls,
III <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
At 10:28 AM 2/21/2020, you wrote:
--> AeroElectric-List messageposted by: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com>
Bob,
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see the diagram you posted on this(I
get the "emacs" on the digest instead of a link).=C2- Thatsaid, it sounds
like what you're proposing would look an awful lot likethe Z13/20 diagram
that you toyed with several years back.=C2- Would itprovide the architect
ure we're looking for inthis?
=C2- That one is already outdated. Go here
https://tinyurl.com/ukper7j
=C2- Bob . . .
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