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1. 02:39 AM - How to activate office 2007 and 2019? (john_kelly)
2. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 08:41 AM - Re: Aircraft Tug (Joe Motis)
4. 11:57 AM - Re: Aircraft Tug ()
5. 01:06 PM - Re: Aircraft Tug (Joe Motis)
6. 04:55 PM - Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Eric Page)
7. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: New role for the E-Bus? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 06:51 PM - Re: New role for the E-Bus? (bcone1381)
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| Subject: | How to activate office 2007 and 2019? |
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
I've been working on three new z-figures between
wrestling bouts with my dad's '87 GMC pickup
truck (fuel pump died . . . as long as I have
to pull the whole tank to replace the pump, I'm
replacing EVERYTHING . . . I'm down to the
last two fasteners holding the tank supports
on the frame . . . 30+ years of rust . . .
Impact wrench won't budge 'em. Been soaking
with penetrating oil but about resigned to
cutting the nuts off with an air-chisel!)
I've posted the latest iterations of the
drawings we've been combing out here over
the past couple of months.
Z100 at https://tinyurl.com/sfsbd2t
This is the generic architecture that's
been flown successfully in hundreds of thousands
of airplanes in the TC and OBAM aviation worlds.
This drawing could have been in Tony Bengelis
books . . . same as a C150 sans avionics bus
(which was never a good idea anyhow). Then:
Z101 at https://tinyurl.com/v9w7g4r
This is Z100 any combination of 4 options:
(1) Robust AUX Alternator
(2) Dual feed, triple source ENGINE bus
to support electrically dependent
engine and ancillary instrumentation.
(3) A CLEARANCE DELIVERY bus that offers
a means for powering up JUST the
COMM transceiver for preflight
planning
(4) A brownout boost feature on the
CD bus to support wobbly electro-whizzies
vulnerable to unacceptable reset
during starter inrush interval.
Then:
Z101/8 at https://tinyurl.com/vanp6yu
Essentially the same as Z101 except for a
smaller AUX alternator in lieu of the bigger
rascal depicted in Z101.
This configuration offers all the features
and reliability with reduced weight and
cost over Z101 where the builder's anticipated
loads under failure of main alternator are
modest. The way the AUX ALT is set up on
these drawings makes it easy to upgrade
from a /8 to the larger alternator as
later needs dictate.
These drawings depict variations suggested
in a constellation of Z-figures . . . a
kind of LEGO approach to acquiring capabilities
of any legacy z-figure at the simplest,
lightest, lowest cost yet failure tolerant
architecturs.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Tug |
With The lead acid batteries right where the trailer hitch ball was I think
never had a traction problem. And that pulling my friends big twin 2 I
would just pulling my Cherokee 180 with it and that thing would drag it all
over the air Park the benefit to use in one of those old Mobility devices
in my opinion was that everything was there it was geared down it was meant
to drag around a 300-pound person it had proportional forward and reverse
controls and a charger built in
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:36 PM <mike@vision499.com> wrote:
> Just a quick question, why did you not keep the seat, would it not improv
e
> traction if you had the extra weight?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Joe Motis
> *Sent:* April 12, 2020 12:56 PM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Tug
>
>
> Her you go Mike
>
> [image: 1014001835[1].jpg]I could not find another picture but I mounted
> a trailer hitch ball on to of the frame right behind the batteries and
> fabricated a tow bar with a hitch connector on it. Works excellent.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:42 PM <mike@vision499.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all
>
>
> I=99m looking at building a 12v battery operated aircraft tug, not
a ride
> on just a walk with. My max aircraft weight will be about 1800 lbs.
>
>
> I am looking for advise on what size motor I will need. There are a few
> 12v motors for sale on ebay but they are not rated in hp so am not sure o
f
> what specs I=99m looking at.
>
>
> One thought was to use a car starter motor but that is not rated for
> continuous service but the farthest I will go with the tug is 100 yds and
> I=99m not sure if it will cope with that distance. A friend has als
o
> suggested converting an alternator into a motor, not sure what that
> entails. Ebay has scooter motors with a speed controller that seems idea
l
> but not sure if that will be powerful enough but it will be geared right
> down.
>
>
> I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
>
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Thank you very much, you have convinced me, I was looking forward to buildi
ng a tug from scratch but it will be a lot cheaper and easier to adapt a mo
bility scooter
I am looking for a used one to convert, will let you know how it turns out
Thanks again
Mike
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <owner-aeroelectric-list
-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Joe Motis
Sent: April 14, 2020 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Tug
With The lead acid batteries right where the trailer hitch ball was I think
never had a traction problem. And that pulling my friends big twin 2 I wou
ld just pulling my Cherokee 180 with it and that thing would drag it all ov
er the air Park the benefit to use in one of those old Mobility devices in
my opinion was that everything was there it was geared down it was meant to
drag around a 300-pound person it had proportional forward and reverse con
trols and a charger built in
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:36 PM <mike@vision499.com <mailto:mike@vision499.co
m> > wrote:
Just a quick question, why did you not keep the seat, would it not improve
traction if you had the extra weight?
Thanks
Mike
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ic-list-server@matronics.com> <owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.co
m <mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> > On Behalf Of Joe
Motis
Sent: April 12, 2020 12:56 PM
>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Tug
Her you go Mike
I could not find another picture but I mounted a trailer hitch ball on to o
f the frame right behind the batteries and fabricated a tow bar with a hitc
h connector on it. Works excellent.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:42 PM <mike@vision499.com <mailto:mike@vision499
=2Ecom> > wrote:
Hello all
I=99m looking at building a 12v battery operated aircraft tug, not a
ride on just a walk with. My max aircraft weight will be about 1800 lbs.
I am looking for advise on what size motor I will need. There are a few 12v
motors for sale on ebay but they are not rated in hp so am not sure of wha
t specs I=99m looking at.
One thought was to use a car starter motor but that is not rated for contin
uous service but the farthest I will go with the tug is 100 yds and I
=99m not sure if it will cope with that distance. A friend has also suggest
ed converting an alternator into a motor, not sure what that entails. Ebay
has scooter motors with a speed controller that seems ideal but not sure i
f that will be powerful enough but it will be geared right down.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas
Thanks
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Tug |
Certainly my pleasure good luck!
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 12:04 PM <mike@vision499.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much, you have convinced me, I was looking forward to
> building a tug from scratch but it will be a lot cheaper and easier to
> adapt a mobility scooter
>
>
> I am looking for a used one to convert, will let you know how it turns ou
t
>
>
> Thanks again
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Joe Motis
> *Sent:* April 14, 2020 8:37 AM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Tug
>
>
> With The lead acid batteries right where the trailer hitch ball was I
> think never had a traction problem. And that pulling my friends big twin
2
> I would just pulling my Cherokee 180 with it and that thing would drag it
> all over the air Park the benefit to use in one of those old Mobility
> devices in my opinion was that everything was there it was geared down it
> was meant to drag around a 300-pound person it had proportional forward a
nd
> reverse controls and a charger built in
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:36 PM <mike@vision499.com> wrote:
>
> Just a quick question, why did you not keep the seat, would it not improv
e
> traction if you had the extra weight?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> *On Behalf Of *Joe Motis
> *Sent:* April 12, 2020 12:56 PM
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Aircraft Tug
>
>
> Her you go Mike
>
> [image: 1014001835[1].jpg]I could not find another picture but I mounted
> a trailer hitch ball on to of the frame right behind the batteries and
> fabricated a tow bar with a hitch connector on it. Works excellent.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:42 PM <mike@vision499.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all
>
>
> I=99m looking at building a 12v battery operated aircraft tug, not
a ride
> on just a walk with. My max aircraft weight will be about 1800 lbs.
>
>
> I am looking for advise on what size motor I will need. There are a few
> 12v motors for sale on ebay but they are not rated in hp so am not sure o
f
> what specs I=99m looking at.
>
>
> One thought was to use a car starter motor but that is not rated for
> continuous service but the farthest I will go with the tug is 100 yds and
> I=99m not sure if it will cope with that distance. A friend has als
o
> suggested converting an alternator into a motor, not sure what that
> entails. Ebay has scooter motors with a speed controller that seems idea
l
> but not sure if that will be powerful enough but it will be geared right
> down.
>
>
> I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
Bob,
I like these architectures a lot, and I think they'd work very well in the day/night
VFR Kitfox I plan to build, hopefully one day soon. They're easy to understand,
which would make them easy to install, operate and maintain. Low parts
count and simplicity would offer high reliability. They look like winners
to me.
I just noticed a couple of minor quibbles:
1. In all three drawings, the legends show a small square symbol indicating "2AWG
EQUAL STRAP," but this symbol does not appear to be used in the drawings.
2. In Z101 and Z101/8, naming of the CD BUS is inconsistent. The actual bus is
labeled "CLRNC DELVRY," but the feeds from the diode bridge and the BATTERY
BUS are labeled "B.O. BUS."
Cheers,
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
At 06:52 PM 4/14/2020, you wrote:
>
>I just noticed a couple of minor quibbles:
>
>1. In all three drawings, the legends show a small square symbol
>indicating "2AWG EQUAL STRAP," but this symbol does not appear to be
>used in the drawings.
Yes, those are boiler-plate notes from
the suit of legacy drawings. Also, there's
a 'fat wire tie point' adjacent to the
battery contactor.
When stacking lots of terminals on
the stud of a contactor, there is competition
for wire orientation off the stud. Further,
many studs are too short to accept the full
stack of terminals. Nonetheless, contactors
offer robust tie points for multiple wires . . .
particularly fat ones.
I'm pondering options for a DIY 'stud expander'
suitable for bringing too many wires together
at the contactor. Still hashing out some options.
Watch this space.
>2. In Z101 and Z101/8, naming of the CD BUS is inconsistent. The
>actual bus is labeled "CLRNC DELVRY," but the feeds from the diode
>bridge and the BATTERY BUS are labeled "B.O. BUS."
Yeah, that bus will service numerous design
goals that range from the simple, single accessory
(comm) tasked with clearance delivery. It could
become an ENDURANCE BUS for ships with no AUX
ALTERNATOR . . . and yes, if some of your
accessories are plagued with brown-out reset
issues, then it could be called a BROWN-OUT
bus . . . or some combination of all three
tasks.
Perhaps POLYBUS is a better term that embraces
all the goals? I think these drawings have
potential for replacing many of the legacy
z-drawings but they will require a comprehensive
narrative to guide new user's selection and
implementation of features.
Thanks for taking the time to review and comment.
These drawings may be up to P10 before they get offered as
best recommendations!
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: New role for the E-Bus? |
Z100 has With Endurance and Brownout Bus in its title, but I don't see them in
the drawing.
--------
Brooks Cone
Bearhawk Patrol Kit Build
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