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     1. 07:40 AM - Re: Aviation wire (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:40:45 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Aviation wire
    At 10:59 AM 5/23/2020, you wrote: > >Hello forum, > >Been rather quiet lately so I thought I would >stir the pot with a relevant question on my project. > >I have always planned on restricting the wire on >my plane to tefzel, mil spec from Steinair or >BandC. I=99ve read and reread Bob=99s book and >see his recommendation (in the text) is not >restricted to this level but he has a clear >process for using wire (or, more accurately, >identifying if the wire is usable) of unknown pedigree. Correct. There have been (and still are) tens of thousands of airplanes flying for decades with a wide range of wire insulations. Given that all fault-vulnerable wires are protected with an artfully selected fuse or breaker, insulations of any pedigree are not at risk for initiating a fire due to feeder faults. The remaining concerns for type of insulation are (1) longevity when subject to the operating environment which includes temperature, hydrocarbons, hydraulic fluids . . . and just plain old age. While 22759 Tefzel (FEP) is the modern material of choice (I say 'modern' but it's been in widespread used on the Wichita fleets for 40 or so years), those same aircraft were manufactured back to the 40's with a variety of insulations including, cotton covered rubber, some of which are still carrying perfectly serviceable wiring. >I have a collection of single conductor and shielded wire that >is all mil-w-16878D. Some is labeled as 200C and some with 105C >temperature rating. None of the wire is below a strand configuration >of 7/30. You can see a table of characteristics for the various forms of 16878 wire at https://tinyurl.com/ydgex35d Your 200C wire is Teflon (ETFE) insulated. Not a 'bad' insulation but the stuff does creep under constant pressure unlike the preferred Tefzel (FEP). Just snug up wire-ties and clamps . . . don't strangle 'em. The infamous Greg Richter and I had some discussion about Teflon wire about 16 years ago . . . https://tinyurl.com/y8lf49dq The 105C wire will be PVC insulated. A generation of single engine Cessnas were manufactured with type BN wire (Nylon over PVC). Yeah, didn't last well under the cowl (nylon jacket got brittle and flaked off). >The question is, =9Cshould I use this wire? Also, if used, >should I restrict its use to the pilot side of the firewall? The 200C wire is fine everywhere but yeah, the 105C wire is best kept aft of the firewall. The Teflon wire is a bit fussy to strip. See: https://tinyurl.com/bol9x2n Bob . . .




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