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Fri 08/07/20


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:15 AM - Re: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 06:36 AM - Re: Rotax install (user9253)
     3. 07:16 AM - Re: Rotax install (meat_ball)
     4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery (Charlie England)
     5. 08:59 AM - Re: Rotax install (user9253)
     6. 10:02 AM - two fuses in a circuit (Ken Ryan)
     7. 10:11 AM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Alec Myers)
     8. 10:28 AM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (user9253)
     9. 10:29 AM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Ken Ryan)
    10. 10:42 AM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (David Carter)
    11. 10:49 AM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Charlie England)
    12. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: two fuses in a circuit (Ken Ryan)
    13. 12:40 PM - Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery (Paul Eckenroth)
    14. 03:58 PM - Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery (dj_theis)
    15. 05:50 PM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Finn Lassen)
    16. 06:52 PM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Charlie England)
    17. 07:30 PM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Ken Ryan)
    18. 07:31 PM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Ken Ryan)
    19. 08:22 PM - Re: two fuses in a circuit (Charlie England)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:15:37 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery
    At 09:30 PM 8/6/2020, you wrote: > >All you have to do is put a diode between the alternator and >battery. That will >drop the voltage that the battery sees and limit the current. That's worth exploring . . . you could take one of the bridge rectifiers commonly used as an e-bus, normal feed path isolator and wire it so that you have one or perhaps two diodes in series with the regulator's output. You're shooting for a bus voltage just barely higher than what's required to fully charge the battery . . . i.e. 13.5 volts. Even that may not 'fix' the problem. The alternator can still be overloaded by other system loads. This just goes to mitigation of battery demands as one of those loads. >An EarthX battery has very low internal resistance. When the battery is low, >it will take the full output of an alternator. That is why the size >of the battery >has to be matched to the alternator size. Not really a 'matching' problem so much as a poor design in the alternator/regulator combination. Too many folks have been burning the alternators on these engines for some time . . . it has little if any to do with choice of battery. Is this an older production engine? Has Revmaster offered any positive response to fixing this? Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:36:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax install
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    There is more than one way to wire the alternators. You can use the 3 position OFF-Battery-Both switch or separate switches. Since you might eventually add a second alternator, to make it less confusing for you or future pilots, I would use 3 separate switches: Master battery contactor switch, alternator-1 switch, and alternator-2 switch. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497550#497550


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    Time: 07:16:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax install
    From: "meat_ball" <arjayefem@fastmail.net>
    user9253 wrote: > There is more than one way to wire the alternators. You can use the > 3 position OFF-Battery-Both switch or separate switches. > Since you might eventually add a second alternator, to make it less confusing > for you or future pilots, I would use 3 separate switches: > Master battery contactor switch, alternator-1 switch, and alternator-2 switch. Of course!! Next question is about the fuses. I want to use the fuse blocks instead of breakers, but is there a hard and fast rule about which components should have a panel circuit breaker instead of the fuse? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497551#497551


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    Time: 07:17:09 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery
    On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 8:20 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 09:30 PM 8/6/2020, you wrote: > > > All you have to do is put a diode between the alternator and battery. > That will > drop the voltage that the battery sees and limit the current. > > > That's worth exploring . . . you could take one > of the bridge rectifiers commonly used as an > e-bus, normal feed path isolator and wire it > so that you have one or perhaps two diodes in > series with the regulator's output. You're > shooting for a bus voltage just barely higher > than what's required to fully charge the battery . . . > i.e. 13.5 volts. Even that may not 'fix' the > problem. The alternator can still be overloaded > by other system loads. This just goes to mitigation > of battery demands as one of those loads. > > An EarthX battery has very low internal resistance. When the battery is > low, > it will take the full output of an alternator. That is why the size of > the battery > has to be matched to the alternator size. > > > Not really a 'matching' problem so much as a > poor design in the alternator/regulator > combination. Too many folks have been burning > the alternators on these engines for some > time . . . it has little if any to do with > choice of battery. > > Is this an older production engine? Has Revmaster > offered any positive response to fixing this? > > Bob . . . > If it's the coils in the alternator that are dying due to overcurrent (and Revmaster won't help you), a 'bandaid' might be a current regulator in series with the alt output (actually, the rectifier/voltage regulator output). Set it for the alt's max survivable current. The regulator would lower voltage to limit current, and as the battery slowly charges and demand drops, voltage will rise to normal preset level. But you need to be aware that under excessive loads, voltage will sag to keep current at the regulator preset current. Additional failure mode, so a way to switch around it might be needed if alt output is critical to flight, which adds complexity.... Are the coils failing due to overcurrent, or heat? Yeah, they are related, but if you can cool the coils with blast tubes... Charlie


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    Time: 08:59:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax install
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    Some builders use all circuit breakers. It is a matter of personal choice. I prefer fuses. They are lighter weight, cost a lot less, and never fail to open the circuit when required. Some breakers have been known to smoke instead of opening. Circuit breakers should be used for circuits that might be expected to momentarily draw too much current. Perhaps a landing gear pump. Bob's drawings use a circuit breaker in series with the over-voltage crowbar module. Your Rotax 20 amp alternator will be heavily loaded, thus unlikely to put out too high voltage. If you have a lead acid battery, it will absorb extra current for a short time. You might risk not having over-voltage protection. Van's Aircraft designed the RV-12 without over-voltage protection. Over 500 of them are flying. If you have a lithium battery, over-voltage protection is highly recommeded. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497556#497556


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    Time: 10:02:16 AM PST US
    From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com>
    Subject: two fuses in a circuit
    There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not uncovered any issues. If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them causes other problems. See attached and as always, thanks! Ken


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    Time: 10:11:34 AM PST US
    From: Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    Noob question... why is a separate fuse for the indicator light a good idea, if the circuit is already protected? On Aug 7, 2020, at 13:03, Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com> wrote: There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not uncovered any issues. If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them causes other problems. See attached and as always, thanks! Ken <wiring-diagram.jpg>


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    Time: 10:28:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    Those 2 amp fuses are not a problem. If you want to experiment, you could short out an indicator light to make sure that the fuel pump fuse does not blow along with the 2 amp fuse. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497559#497559


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    Time: 10:29:17 AM PST US
    From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    If the indicator light shorts out I would not want that to take down the pump itself. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 09:18 Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com> wrote: > > Noob question... why is a separate fuse for the indicator light a good > idea, if the circuit is already protected? > > On Aug 7, 2020, at 13:03, Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having tw o > fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. > > My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether or > not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire that > powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each indicator light is > tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, and that wire is protect ed > separately by a 2 amp fuse. > > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% complete, > but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not uncovered any > issues. > > If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them caus es > other problems. > > See attached and as always, thanks! > > Ken > <wiring-diagram.jpg> > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 10:42:44 AM PST US
    From: David Carter <david@carter.net>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    It's not the circuit that is protected by the breaker or fuse, it's the *wire*. If the wire running to the indicator lamp is smaller than the 16 gauge running to the pump, the fuse is appropriate. I don't see the wire size labeled. That fuse should be as near as possible to the junction of the pump wire & the smaller indicator wire. If it's wired according to the diagram, I don't see any way the fuse to the indicator could take out the pump, because that fuse is not in the path of the electrons going through the pump. --- David Carter david@carter.net On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:13 PM Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com> wrote: > > Noob question... why is a separate fuse for the indicator light a good > idea, if the circuit is already protected? > > On Aug 7, 2020, at 13:03, Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having tw o > fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. > > My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether or > not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire that > powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each indicator light is > tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, and that wire is protect ed > separately by a 2 amp fuse. > > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% complete, > but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not uncovered any > issues. > > If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them caus es > other problems. > > See attached and as always, thanks! > > Ken > <wiring-diagram.jpg> > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 10:49:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Ryan wrote: > There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having > two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. > > My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether > or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire > that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each > indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, > and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. > > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% > complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not > uncovered any issues. > > If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them > causes other problems. > > See attached and as always, thanks! > > Ken If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, any issue disappears. Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, of course. What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection pumps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge). The Wabros are marked right on the pump. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 12:17:01 PM PST US
    From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    Thanks everyone. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 09:36 user9253 <fransew@gmail.com> wrote: > > Those 2 amp fuses are not a problem. If you want to experiment, you could > short out > an indicator light to make sure that the fuel pump fuse does not blow > along with the 2 amp fuse. > > -------- > Joe Gores > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497559#497559 > >


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    Time: 12:40:05 PM PST US
    From: Paul Eckenroth <N509RV@eckenroth.com>
    Subject: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery
    Thank you for all of the comments and suggestions. The Revmaster engine is their latest iteration. The generators are rated at 18 amps each but have the ability to open a 30 amp fuse located before the regulator. Revmaster has suggested possibly reducing the number of wire layers in each coil to 2 from the current 3 which I assume would lower the peak current and therefore heat but I don't know what that will do to the final output. After testing the generators today for continuity, I believe that I may have avoided the need for a new stator. So my plan going forward is to buy and install the B&C adjustable regulator. Install a current probe. And try to fly the plane without burning up the generators. EarthX suggested setting the voltage as low as 13.3 which would also reduce available amps. I would certainly appreciate any additional suggestions. Paul On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:54 PM Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 07:52 PM 8/6/2020, you wrote: > > jeckenroth@nbn.net> > > I have a Revmaster engine in my Onex which is not dealing well with my > EarthX battery. The engine has a total of 12 coils arranged on the stator > which consists of 2 each of 5 coils making up the dual generator and 2 > coils powering the ignition. It all sounded good on paper with much > redundancy but apparently the generator coils produce too much heat at full > output which can cause them to short out. When used with the old fashioned > lead acid battery the charge rate is less and therefore less heat. Is > there any proper method to throttle the generator output or reduce the > EarthX input to approach the charging rate of the lead acid battery and not > cause the generator to create the excessive heat. I know the easy way is > to just replace the battery but that would not be good for my W&B. Thanks > for any help and suggestions. > > > I've been hearing/reading about shortfalls in > the design of that alternator for years. > The thing is thermally marginal at best. > If you can acquire an adjustable regulator > for PM alternators, you can set the charging > voltage down such that the alternator is > not working quite so hard at the LOWEST > voltage that will still charge the battery. > > The attached plot show EarthX test data from > some years back. A bus voltage of 13.0 falls > far short of fully charging the battery . . . while > voltages of 13.5, 14.0 and 15.0 will all > fully charge the battery. The BMS takes > care of moderating any 'excess' voltage but > its design rules will allow the battery > to accept any safe level of replenishment . . . > safe for the battery. Unfortunately, > that current value is more than your > alternator/regulator combination is able > to grunt without smoking the windings. > > B&C has a new product that MIGHT be a > solution . . . albeit an unfortunate > 'band aid' on the Revmaster's shortcomings. > > https://tinyurl.com/y6mr4x7e > > You would want to set the bus voltage > to 13.6 +/- 0.1 volts. I'm thinking this > MIGHT do the trick. > > Give B&C a call and talk with their > technowienies about this. > > > Bob . . . >


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    Time: 03:58:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Revmaster engine with EarthX battery
    From: "dj_theis" <djtheis58@gmail.com>
    >B&C has a new product that MIGHT be a >solution . . . albeit an unfortunate >'band aid' on the Revmaster's shortcomings. I own the Revmaster R2300 with the same alternator. (I've asked for advice from the forum on my project the past.) I also considered using the B&C regulator to provide an adjustable voltage regulator in a more robust package than what Revmaster provides. One thing that makes me pause is this thought process: 1) the original R/R is a half wave recitifer design. 2) The noted problem is an underdesigned PM alternator unable to reject heat produced with both sides running. So, what's recommended is to run only one side at a time. Isn't running one PM alternator with full wave rectification about the same current / heat level as two regulators, each with a half wave rectifier? Attached is my simpified sketch of the revmaster's PM alternators (for reference) with a design I cleaved from Bob's Z16 drawings, including overvoltage protection and switching (overvoltage not shown). I think my drawing is finding it's way around the "net," which is fine. I'm pretty sure it depicts the R2300 alternator accurately. BTW, I do like the current limiting idea, despite it's possible drawback with added complexity. Dan Theis -------- Scratch building Sonex #1362 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=497570#497570 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/revmaster_voltage_regulators_516.pdf


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    Time: 05:50:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    From: Finn Lassen <finn.usa@gmail.com>
    My GSL393 is marked "20 amp fuse". Finn On 8/7/2020 1:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: > <ceengland7@gmail.com> > > On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Ryan wrote: >> There has been some discussion about possible issues related to >> having two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever >> resolved. >> >> My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether >> or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire >> that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each >> indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, >> and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. >> >> I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% >> complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not >> uncovered any issues. >> >> If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me >> to lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing >> them causes other problems. >> >> See attached and as always, thanks! >> >> Ken > If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, > any issue disappears. Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, > of course. > > What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection > pumps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge). The Wabros are > marked right on the pump. > > Charlie > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 06:52:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Thanks Finn; I'm having a bad memory day (as you probably saw over on the rotary list). On 8/7/2020 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: > > My GSL393 is marked "20 amp fuse". > > Finn > > > On 8/7/2020 1:45 PM, Charlie England wrote: >> <ceengland7@gmail.com> >> >> On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Ryan wrote: >>> There has been some discussion about possible issues related to >>> having two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever >>> resolved. >>> >>> My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me >>> whether or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course >>> the wire that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers >>> each indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective >>> pump, and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. >>> >>> I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% >>> complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not >>> uncovered any issues. >>> >>> If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me >>> to lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing >>> them causes other problems. >>> >>> See attached and as always, thanks! >>> >>> Ken >> If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, >> any issue disappears. Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, >> of course. >> >> What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection >> pumps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge). The Wabros are >> marked right on the pump. >> >> Charlie >> > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 07:30:41 PM PST US
    From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    Charlie, the pumps are Walbro. I believe they are GSL395. I was advised to use 10 amp fuse but I will double check. I did go to the Walbro website but couldn't find specs. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:56 AM Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote: > ceengland7@gmail.com> > > On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Ryan wrote: > > There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having > > two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. > > > > My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether > > or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire > > that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each > > indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, > > and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. > > > > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% > > complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not > > uncovered any issues. > > > > If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to > > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them > > causes other problems. > > > > See attached and as always, thanks! > > > > Ken > If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, any > issue disappears. Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, of > course. > > What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection > pumps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge). The Wabros are > marked right on the pump. > > Charlie > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >


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    Time: 07:31:00 PM PST US
    From: Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    I will check the pump and see if it is marked. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:26 PM Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail.com> wrote: > Charlie, the pumps are Walbro. I believe they are GSL395. I was advised to > use 10 amp fuse but I will double check. I did go to the Walbro website but > couldn't find specs. > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:56 AM Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ceengland7@gmail.com> >> >> On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken Ryan wrote: >> > There has been some discussion about possible issues related to having >> > two fuses in the same circuit. I'm not sure if this was ever resolved. >> > >> > My situation has to do with the indicator lights that tell me whether >> > or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting power. Of course the wire >> > that powers each pump is fused. But the wire that powers each >> > indicator light is tied to the same circuit as its respective pump, >> > and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp fuse. >> > >> > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram. Wiring is 100% >> > complete, but airplane has not flown yet. Limited testing has not >> > uncovered any issues. >> > >> > If the existence of these two amp fuses in my system could cause me to >> > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing them >> > causes other problems. >> > >> > See attached and as always, thanks! >> > >> > Ken >> If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, any >> issue disappears. Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, of >> course. >> >> What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection >> pumps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge). The Wabros are >> marked right on the pump. >> >> Charlie >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> >>


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    Subject: Re: two fuses in a circuit
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Found a link showing the 395 along with the other Walbro gerotor pumps=2E I t shows 130 lph @ 15 psi, so the 10A fusing sounds more plausible=2E https: //walbrofuelpumps=2Ecom/walbro-gsl-series-universal-inline-fuel-pumps I wa s expecting either 3-6 psi for a carb, or 40-60 psi for electronic injectio n=2E Charlie =81=A3Sent from BlueMail =8B On Aug 7, 2020, 9:36 PM, at 9:36 PM, Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmail=2Ecom> wrote: >Charlie, the pum ps are Walbro=2E I believe they are GSL395=2E I was advised >to >use 10 amp fuse but I will double check=2E I did go to the Walbro website >but >could n't find specs=2E > >On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:56 AM Charlie England <ceengl and7@gmail=2Ecom> >wrote: > rlie England < >> ceengland7@gmail=2Ecom> >> >> On 8/7/2020 11:58 AM, Ken R yan wrote: >> > There has been some discussion about possible issues relate d to >having >> > two fuses in the same circuit=2E I'm not sure if this was ever >resolved=2E >> > >> > My situation has to do with the indicator ligh ts that tell me >whether >> > or not each of my two fuel pumps is getting p ower=2E Of course the >wire >> > that powers each pump is fused=2E But the wire that powers each >> > indicator light is tied to the same circuit as i ts respective pump, >> > and that wire is protected separately by a 2 amp f use=2E >> > >> > I have attached a picture of my wiring diagram=2E Wiring i s 100% >> > complete, but airplane has not flown yet=2E Limited testing has not >> > uncovered any issues=2E >> > >> > If the existence of these two a mp fuses in my system could cause me >to >> > lose power to a fuel pump, I would remove them, unless removing >them >> > causes other problems=2E >> > >> > See attached and as always, thanks! >> > >> > Ken >> If you move the lamp connection point (and fuse) back to the source, >any >> issue disappea rs=2E Unless you're using the CB to control the pump, of >> course=2E >> >> What pumps are you using? Facets run on about 2-3A; Walbro injection >> pu mps expect a 15A protection device (startup surge)=2E The Wabros are >> mar ked right on the pump=2E >> >> Charlie >> >> -- >> This email has been chec ked for viruses by Avast antivirus software=2E >> https://www=2Eavast=2Ecom /antivirus >> >> >> >> >>




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