---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/19/20: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Has anyone used very high temp silicone FWF? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:59 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Has anyone used very high temp silicone FWF? >Which one? It seems there are multiple threads going, and some of us >are using email (I am, anyway) and others are using the web based >list, so I don't know which product you're talking about. The >F-B-2000? If so, it would seem that you're probably right, since >they're so vague with info. They do claim 1000F+ for the CP 25 WP+ >intumescent caulk. Spec sheet attached, showing that the intumescent >action happens at 1000 degrees F. > >For simple seam sealing, if we're realistic, just about anything >would be fine, like Ernest said. The latex based intumescent stuff >(CP25WP+) is much cheaper, and ideal for filling empty space around >wires, etc in holes, but even that is probably overkill if you use >the firesleeve/hose clamp method Bob linked. It's been some time since I read the qualification testing docs for firewall integrity so I might be in error. I have witnessed a couple of tests conducted by the famous Jack Thurman and his trusty fire-breathing dragon. A mock firewall sheet is fitted with the proposed feed thru system. A propane fired burner is positioned a few feet off the front side of the firewall. A thermocouple is positioned about 6" off the firewall right in front of the test article. The test setup is bathed in propane powered flame sufficient to push the thermocouple reading to 2000 plus or minus a hundred or so degrees . . . for ten minutes. After everything cools down, the feedthru is disassembled and inspected for depth of penetration into the assembly with some criteria for maximum allowed charring, etc of the wiring. The sealants being discussed are, no doubt, suitable for intended purposes of closing voids around pipes and/or bundles of wires that penetrate walls in structures . . . I'm having trouble wrapping my head around any perceived similarities between a .030" thick sheet of stainless and a 6" concrete or cinder block wall. I'll be the first to agree that chances of being at-risk from a fuel-fed fire in your airplane is really pretty low . . . but not zero. But to fill your comfort basket with the knowledge nuggets of a completely unrelated approach to fire control seems extra-ordinarily risky too. I'll see if I can scare up a service manual or two for some TC aircraft in search of a narrative on replacement/modification of qualified firewall feed thrus. Bob . . . Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane out of that stuff?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.