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1. 07:00 AM - Re: Interesting (Steve Williams)
2. 07:32 AM - Re: Interesting (ashleysc@broadstripe.net)
3. 07:56 AM - Re: Interesting (Charlie England)
4. 09:05 AM - Apollo GX65 repair? (Janet Amtmann)
5. 02:18 PM - Re: Repair of Apollo GX65 (n1dw)
6. 06:59 PM - Re: Interesting (Kelly McMullen)
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That IS interesting.
"The closed loop lithium-ion battery resource recovery system yields ...
sustainable production of battery-grade lithium, cobalt and nickel ..."
"Sustainable," eh? OK, then, what's the environmental footprint of the
recycling process? How does that compare to the original mining of
these materials?
Also, "The process recovers 95% of all lithium-ion battery materials
..." So recycling extends the life cycle of these materials 20X (minus
the recycling footprint). Significant, but not, by definition,
"sustainable."
I'm often left scratching my head over the framing of news about energy
production and storage. Yes, charging an electric car with
centrally-generated electricity produces less carbon and particulates
than a car that burns its own gas. (Don't forget the life cycle costs
of solar panels, wind turbines, hydroelectric dams, and transmission.
Even microgrids!) But, like adding lanes to a freeway, will electric
cars increase miles driven?
Even if not, is it "sustainable," or does it only push the environmental
collapse further in the future?
What's my point? I don't actually know. Mostly, I'd like to see news
coverage frame this more honestly. Instead of claiming this makes
batteries "sustainable," we might say this "reduces the environmental
cost by X%." Even that doesn't tell the whole story, but at least it's
closer to the truth.
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Hi Steve;
In other words you would like to see scientifically accurate articles written by
scientifically ignorant writers.
These are the same folks who would have us afraid of the element "Carbon," as in
our "Carbon Footprint."
Cheers! Stu.
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From: "Steve Williams" <sbw@sbw.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:59:49 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Interesting
That IS interesting.
"The closed loop lithium-ion battery resource recovery system yields ...
sustainable production of battery-grade lithium, cobalt and nickel ..."
"Sustainable," eh? OK, then, what's the environmental footprint of the
recycling process? How does that compare to the original mining of
these materials?
Also, "The process recovers 95% of all lithium-ion battery materials
..." So recycling extends the life cycle of these materials 20X (minus
the recycling footprint). Significant, but not, by definition,
"sustainable."
I'm often left scratching my head over the framing of news about energy
production and storage. Yes, charging an electric car with
centrally-generated electricity produces less carbon and particulates
than a car that burns its own gas. (Don't forget the life cycle costs
of solar panels, wind turbines, hydroelectric dams, and transmission.
Even microgrids!) But, like adding lanes to a freeway, will electric
cars increase miles driven?
Even if not, is it "sustainable," or does it only push the environmental
collapse further in the future?
What's my point? I don't actually know. Mostly, I'd like to see news
coverage frame this more honestly. Instead of claiming this makes
batteries "sustainable," we might say this "reduces the environmental
cost by X%." Even that doesn't tell the whole story, but at least it's
closer to the truth.
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On 2/20/2021 8:59 AM, Steve Williams wrote:
>
> That IS interesting.
>
> "The closed loop lithium-ion battery resource recovery system yields
> ... sustainable production of battery-grade lithium, cobalt and nickel
> ..."
>
> "Sustainable," eh? OK, then, what's the environmental footprint of
> the recycling process? How does that compare to the original mining
> of these materials?
>
> Also, "The process recovers 95% of all lithium-ion battery materials
> ..." So recycling extends the life cycle of these materials 20X
> (minus the recycling footprint). Significant, but not, by definition,
> "sustainable."
>
> I'm often left scratching my head over the framing of news about
> energy production and storage. Yes, charging an electric car with
> centrally-generated electricity produces less carbon and particulates
> than a car that burns its own gas. (Don't forget the life cycle costs
> of solar panels, wind turbines, hydroelectric dams, and transmission.
> Even microgrids!) But, like adding lanes to a freeway, will electric
> cars increase miles driven?
>
> Even if not, is it "sustainable," or does it only push the
> environmental collapse further in the future?
>
> What's my point? I don't actually know. Mostly, I'd like to see news
> coverage frame this more honestly. Instead of claiming this makes
> batteries "sustainable," we might say this "reduces the environmental
> cost by X%." Even that doesn't tell the whole story, but at least
> it's closer to the truth.
Whenever I see posts like this, I hear, 'This stuff isn't a perfect
solution, so we should just let Big Oil and Big Coal run our lives until
there's no livable environment.'
Why not mentally insert one word ('more'), and be happy that
improvements are being made?
Charlie
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| Subject: | Apollo GX65 repair? |
My last post seems to have vanished into the ether. My question, can
anyone lead me to a person that can repair a NOS Apollo GX65 that was DOA
out of the box (COM is inoperative)? I don't want to rebuild my entire
instrument panel.
J=C3=BCrgen Amtmann
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| Subject: | Repair of Apollo GX65 |
Jurgen,
Am responding to this previous inquiry prompted by your latest. The
first inquiry below gave no information as to what tests, research, etc.
that was conducted to verify the radio section of this unit was not
working.
And no, I do not know of a viable repair facility, but I have a thought
or two.
You mention the GPS lights up, but COM does not work. Does the display
show active and standby frequencies at the bottom of the display? If
not, the first thing that came to mind is that there is no connectivity
between the NAV and COM functions other than the display screen. They
are basically two separately functioning radios in a single box. I.e.,
they each have their own power and ground connections. Is yours wired
up accordingly?
After verifying the power connections are getting to the radio (if not,
it could be defective wiring and/or pins in the connectors), then it
would be time to check the antenna connections. If none of these work,
then you may indeed have a faulty unit and your best bet is to try to
find a seller willing to refund your money if the unit you purchase does
not function in your system. If you get the same results with a 2nd
unit, then I would be highly suspect that it is not the unit, but
something else.
For what it is worth, I do not think the GPS in these radios should be
used unless you can find a source for updating the GPS card that
provides that data. So the real question is whether or not you can find
a compatible unit with a working COM function. Good luck.
Regards, Doug Windhorn
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of Janet
Amtmann
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:03 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Repair of Apollo GX65
Does anyone know of someone that can repair an old Apollo GX 65 GPS/COM
radio? I bought it new many years ago and installed it in my RV6. On
power-up it did not work. No xmit or receive. The GPS window lights up
and cycles thru the initial tests, so the radio is getting power
properly. I get no satisfaction from Garmin who bought the line and
then deleted it from stock. I did a bench test and it is not
transmitting or receiving.
The trays will not accommodate a different radio, I would have to
rebuild the whole instrument panel, but I'm leery of purchasing a used
one (they are available) and might get one with the same or other
problem. At the moment we are flying with a handheld, but that's a
PITA. Any information would be welcome.
Jurgen Amtmann
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Sorry you chose to respond like a politician.
Carbon footprint is NOT about elemental carbon. It is the carbon
compounds your activities generate, like carbon dioxide and others that
have a major impact on greenhouse gas effect.
Might as well be afraid of di-hydrogen oxide, especially when temps are
below zero.
On 2/20/2021 8:31 AM, ashleysc@broadstripe.net wrote:
>
> Hi Steve;
> In other words you would like to see scientifically accurate articles written
by scientifically ignorant writers.
> These are the same folks who would have us afraid of the element "Carbon," as
in our "Carbon Footprint."
> Cheers! Stu.
>
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