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1. 08:11 AM - AC tug (rd2)
2. 08:32 AM - Re: AC tug (mike Pienaar)
3. 08:37 AM - Re: Milspec wire followup: PTFE vs ETFE (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 09:36 AM - Re: Milspec wire followup: PTFE vs ETFE (Charlie England)
5. 10:22 AM - Re: AC tug (skywagon185guy)
6. 08:51 PM - mumbai escorts (manvikakkar565)
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It looks like my original post got lost in internet space...
Does anyone know of/have experience with, or has anyone built an inexpensive aircraft
tug to share detail or suggestions?
Maturing shoulders and thorn rotator cuffs no longer lend themselves well to pulling
the bird out of the hangar, something that was "piece a'cake" some years
ago :)
Rumen
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Good luck
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 8:21 AM, rd2 <rd2@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
>
> It looks like my original post got lost in internet space...
>
> Does anyone know of/have experience with, or has anyone built an inexpensive
aircraft tug to share detail or suggestions?
> Maturing shoulders and thorn rotator cuffs no longer lend themselves well to
pulling the bird out of the hangar, something that was "piece a'cake" some years
ago :)
> Rumen
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Milspec wire followup: PTFE vs ETFE |
At 11:22 AM 3/10/2021, you wrote:
>Question for Bob N. or others who've used a lot of milspec wire:
>I'm aware of the obvious differences between
>PTFE & ETFE; 'P' has higher temp rating but tends to 'cold flow'. I
>
>I'm pretty sure I've encountered PTFE in
>pre-built harnesses from some avionics mfgrs,=C2
>based on the way the insulation strips,=C2 vs
>known-ETFE wire I have on hand. If we install
>with reasonable care, is there any reason to
>fear using PTFE for wiring throughout the airframe?
PTFE (Teflon) is not 'more' desirable than ETFE (Tefzel) and
it has some downsides.
Greg Richter and I had some lengthy discussions on this
about 17 years back after I reviewed his "Wiring for Smart People"
publication.
https://tinyurl.com/qxvr6nx
I'm aware of no manufacturer that uses Teflon
for general airframe wiring. Of perhaps 30000
feet of wire I have in inventory, I don't think
there is a hundred feet of Teflon.
Here's a copy of the Wire Bible which was
updated on the website this morning. This is
a searchable pdf file that will allow you to
quickly identify about any wire product by
specification.
https://tinyurl.com/ydgacclw
Having said that, Teflon is not 'evil'. If you
got a heck of a deal on some I would not discourage
it's use in avionics harnesses but it's kinda
finicky to strip.
https://tinyurl.com/bol9x2n
Bob . . .
Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes
survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane
out of that stuff?"
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| Subject: | Re: Milspec wire followup: PTFE vs ETFE |
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:48 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> At 11:22 AM 3/10/2021, you wrote:
>
> Question for Bob N. or others who've used a lot of milspec wire:
> I'm aware of the obvious differences between PTFE & ETFE; 'P' has higher
> temp rating but tends to 'cold flow'. I
>
> I'm pretty sure I've encountered PTFE in pre-built harnesses from some
> avionics mfgrs,=C3=82 based on the way the insulation strips,=C3=82 vs kn
own-ETFE
> wire I have on hand. If we install with reasonable care, is there any
> reason to fear using PTFE for wiring throughout the airframe?
>
>
> PTFE (Teflon) is not 'more' desirable than ETFE (Tefzel) and
> it has some downsides.
>
> Greg Richter and I had some lengthy discussions on this
> about 17 years back after I reviewed his "Wiring for Smart People"
> publication.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/qxvr6nx
>
> I'm aware of no manufacturer that uses Teflon
> for general airframe wiring. Of perhaps 30000
> feet of wire I have in inventory, I don't think
> there is a hundred feet of Teflon.
>
> Here's a copy of the Wire Bible which was
> updated on the website this morning. This is
> a searchable pdf file that will allow you to
> quickly identify about any wire product by
> specification.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ydgacclw
>
> Having said that, Teflon is not 'evil'. If you
> got a heck of a deal on some I would not discourage
> it's use in avionics harnesses but it's kinda
> finicky to strip.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bol9x2n
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
I'd agree that P is less desirable than E, because I'm not concerned about
extreme temp ratings and had minor concern about cold flow. I had spotted a
'deal' on about 1K ft of P (IIRC, it was ID'd as M22759/9), but then found
the same quantity of E (M22759/16) for about a penny more per foot. Not a
big enough price delta for the hassle.
Many thanks for the info; if I run across some P with a bigger price delta
in the future, I may well add some to my 'inventory'.
Charlie
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:14 AM rd2 <rd2@dejazzd.com> wrote:
>
> It looks like my original post got lost in internet space...
>
> Does anyone know of/have experience with, or has anyone built an
> inexpensive aircraft tug to share detail or suggestions?
> Maturing shoulders and thorn rotator cuffs no longer lend themselves well
> to pulling the bird out of the hangar, something that was "piece a'cake"
> some years ago :)
> Rumen
>
>
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