AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/03/21


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 01:04 AM - Re: Garmin 400 series display replacement (Peter Pengilly)
     2. 03:06 AM - Re: Garmin 400 series display replacement (GTH)
     3. 06:52 AM - Splicing shielded pair (Michael Burbidge)
     4. 03:59 PM - Thermocouple Accuracy ()
     5. 04:33 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 04:49 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (Alec)
     7. 04:53 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (Kent or Jackie Ashton)
     8. 09:21 PM - Re: Splicing shielded pair (Art Zemon)
     9. 10:46 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (mike Pienaar)
    10. 10:46 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (mike Pienaar)
    11. 10:55 PM - Re: Thermocouple Accuracy (mike Pienaar)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:04:20 AM PST US
    From: Peter Pengilly <peter@sportingaero.com>
    Subject: Garmin 400 series display replacement
    As far as I know Garmin are still supporting the 400 series, you may be better off sending it in. The European repair centre is in Southampton. A customer with 2 x GNC430 in a DA40 arrived at work a couple of years ago with both units not working correctly. In the end we had to send both back to Garmin for repair. He had disassembled both and made errors in assembly. Might be worth asking your local service centre what the cost will be? Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of GTH Sent: 03 April 2021 00:09 Subject: AeroElectric-List: Garmin 400 series display replacement Hello all, Our Garmin GPS 400 memory battery was successfully replaced some months ago, thanks to the advices on the list. Here is a small summary which could help (only in French at the moment, but if you ask...) http://contrails.free.fr/instruments_bat_gps.php Now another issue : the display begins to show some faded areas. Question : does someone on the list know of a source for a replacement screen? Any input appreciated, Thanks in advance, -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr


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    Time: 03:06:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Garmin 400 series display replacement
    From: GTH <gilles.thesee@free.fr>
    Le 03/04/2021 10:03, Peter Pengilly a crit: > > As far as I know Garmin are still supporting the 400 series, you may be better off sending it in. > The European repair centre is in Southampton. > A customer with 2 x GNC430 in a DA40 arrived at work a couple of years ago with both units not working correctly. > In the end we had to send both back to Garmin for repair. He had disassembled both and made errors in assembly. > Might be worth asking your local service centre what the cost will be? > Peter, Thank you for answering. Of course the Garmin service center is the way to go, and we'll try it when everything else fails, but Garmin charges are outrageous. Battery replacement is charged several hundreds of dollars for a part available in the next DIY store for a few bucks/quids/euros. So *if* the part is available to end customers, I'd try and replace it at home. The Garmin is more or less a small computer with two i386 processors in a very neat and sturdy housing. LCDs for various Garmin GPSs sell for $15-20 on the Web. But yes, I'll ask the service center in Luxembourg, they sold us the unit some 18 years ago! -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr


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    Time: 06:52:35 AM PST US
    From: Michael Burbidge <mburbidg@gmail.com>
    Subject: Splicing shielded pair
    Hi, Is there a video or instructions somewhere that describe how to splice shie lded pair wire? Thanks, Michael-


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    Time: 03:59:34 PM PST US
    From: <mikepienaar09@gmail.com>
    Subject: Thermocouple Accuracy
    I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 200 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? I am using a MGL EFIS unit All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark plug Thanks Mike


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    Time: 04:33:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    unless you put a lot of salt in the water for the freezing part, that reading should be very close to 32 degrees. The boiling temp is fine, takes some effort to get the water above 200. On 4/3/2021 3:58 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: > I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading > of 200 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? > > I am using a MGL EFIS unit > > All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees > > Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark > plug > > Thanks > > Mike >


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    Time: 04:49:41 PM PST US
    From: Alec <alec@alecmyers.com>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    Where=99s the other junction? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2021, at 7:00 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: > > =EF=BB > I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 2 00 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? > I am using a MGL EFIS unit > All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees > Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark p lug > > Thanks > > Mike


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    Time: 04:53:12 PM PST US
    From: Kent or Jackie Ashton <kjashton@vnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    What=99s your elevation? https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boilin g-points-water-altitude-d_1344.html -Kent > On Apr 3, 2021, at 7:11 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: > > =EF=BB > I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 2 00 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? > I am using a MGL EFIS unit > All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees > Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark p lug > > Thanks > > Mike


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    Time: 09:21:33 PM PST US
    From: Art Zemon <art@zemon.name>
    Subject: Re: Splicing shielded pair
    Michael, I soldered ground wires to the shields. You could probably adapt that technique. See the three photos at the bottom of my blog post Wiring Harness Installed <https://cheerfulcurmudgeon.com/2016/11/28/wiring-harness-installed/>. Cheers, -- Art Z. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 9:24 AM Michael Burbidge <mburbidg@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > Is there a video or instructions somewhere that describe how to splice > shielded pair wire? > > > Thanks, > > Michael- > -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *Friendship is like a stone. A stone has no value, but when you rub two stones together properly, sparks of fire emerge. * Rabbi Mordechai of Lechovitz


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    Time: 10:46:11 PM PST US
    From: mike Pienaar <mikepienaar09@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    Elevation is sea level Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Kent or Jackie Ashton <kjashton@vnet.net> wrot e: > > =EF=BB > What=99s your elevation? https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boil ing-points-water-altitude-d_1344.html > -Kent > >>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 7:11 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: >>> >> =EF=BB >> I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 200 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? >> I am using a MGL EFIS unit >> All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees >> Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark p lug >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike


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    Time: 10:46:56 PM PST US
    From: mike Pienaar <mikepienaar09@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    Normal water Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:48 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > > unless you put a lot of salt in the water for the freezing part, that reading should be very close to 32 degrees. The boiling temp is fine, takes some effort to get the water above 200. > >> On 4/3/2021 3:58 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: >> I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 200 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? >> I am using a MGL EFIS unit >> All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees >> Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark plug >> Thanks >> Mike > > >


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    Time: 10:55:57 PM PST US
    From: mike Pienaar <mikepienaar09@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Thermocouple Accuracy
    One end of the thermocouple wire is attached to the copper ring under the pl ug, the other end is connected to the MGL RDAC unit that feeds signal to the EFIS. There are no joins in the wire Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Alec <alec@alecmyers.com> wrote: > > =EF=BBWhere=99s the other junction? > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 7:00 PM, mikepienaar09@gmail.com wrote: >>> >> =EF=BB >> I put my CHT sensors into boiling water at sea level and got a reading of 200 deg F and got 22 deg F with them in ice water. Is this close enough? >> I am using a MGL EFIS unit >> All 4 sensors provide the same reading plus or minus 1 or 2 degrees >> Sensors are K type attached to a copper washer that fits under the spark p lug >> >> Thanks >> >> Mike




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