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Fri 06/11/21


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 05:17 AM - Re: Radio or Television Tower Buzz (ArnoldWilder)
     2. 08:04 AM - Locking 3P switch? (David Carter)
     3. 03:22 PM - MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (Tom Barter)
     4. 03:31 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (William Daniell)
     5. 03:32 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     6. 03:37 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (Charlie England)
     7. 04:15 PM - Garmin GTR 200 Help Needed (farmrjohn)
     8. 05:28 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (Matthew S. Whiting)
     9. 06:21 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (Charlie England)
    10. 09:05 PM - Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections (David Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:17:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Radio or Television Tower Buzz
    From: "ArnoldWilder" <wilderarnold84@yahoo.com>
    Yep, interesting thread. I usually have the same issue while flying in the vicinity of radio towers. At first, I was a little bit scared because of the noises, but then I understood that it gives some kind of adrenaline. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502331#502331


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    Time: 08:04:24 AM PST US
    From: David Carter <david@carter.net>
    Subject: Locking 3P switch?
    Please see attached diagram. I'm looking for a better solution than what I'm showing now for the "test/kill" connection on the SDS CPI-2 ECU. I believe it would be better if this was on the same switch as the power to the ECU & coil, so that the "test/kill" connection would be grounded any time the ECU & coil power supplies are switched off. Grounding this connection causes the ECU to stop firing the coils/plugs. When power is removed from the ECU & coil primary supply connections, the ECU remains on & automatically switches to the backup power supply. The manufacturer's intent is that this is supplied by a dedicated battery with an unswitched supply rather than the Z101 engine bus, but that's not relevant to the question at hand. Can anyone suggest a locking 3 pole switch similar to the Honeywell NT series, or another creative way to achieve this with more common switches? Thanks, David --- David Carter david@carter.net


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    Time: 03:22:08 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Barter" <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net>
    Subject: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    Greetings, I'm in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, and am wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads coming out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire control cable that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company used to offer a small, round pin connector for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be able to disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if possible. Any suggestions for a connector for fine wires like that appreciated. Tom Barter -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 03:31:07 PM PST US
    From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@GMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    I used a molex but i suspect a dsub would have been better Will William Daniell +1 786 878 0246 On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 18:25 Tom Barter <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > > I=99m in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, and am > wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads coming > out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire control cable > that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company used to offer a small , > round pin connector for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be > able to disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if > possible. Any suggestions for a connector for fine wires like that > appreciated. > > > Tom Barter > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free . > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_-6897774303887738996_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >


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    Time: 03:32:37 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    At 05:21 PM 6/11/2021, you wrote: >Greetings, > > >I'm in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, and >am wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads >coming out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire >control cable that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company >used to offer a small, round pin connector for that purpose, but not >any more. Would like to be able to disconnect the actuator rather >than cut solder joints, if possible. Any suggestions for a >connector for fine wires like that appreciated. > > Ditch the 26AWG 5wire extension and mate your MAC actuator to a 22AWG 5-wire bundle of your own making. Here's a suggested method that is much easier to fabricate and decidedly more robust as a finished installation: https://tinyurl.com/cmq7epd Bob . . . Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane out of that stuff?"


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    Time: 03:37:37 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    Machined subD pins should work fine; if needed strip twice as much and double the wire before inserting in the pin. If you want them 'orderly', use a 9 pin housing; otherwise just use heat shrink over each mated pair. Wish I could claim the idea.. ;-) Charlie <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:25 PM Tom Barter <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > > I=99m in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, and am > wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads coming > out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire control cable > that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company used to offer a small , > round pin connector for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be > able to disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if > possible. Any suggestions for a connector for fine wires like that > appreciated. > > > Tom Barter > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free . > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_1956570227212391193_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >


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    Time: 04:15:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Garmin GTR 200 Help Needed
    From: "farmrjohn" <faithvineyard@yahoo.com>
    I have a GTR 200 installed in a certificated airplane so Garmin tech support won't help. I'm having an issue with the received volume on the initial response to my transmission in that the volume is about 1/2 of normal, and it only is in the left headset speaker. Either this has recently started or I haven't noticed it before. The radio is stand alone, no audio panel is installed. Garmin says take it to a dealer but there aren't any conveniently located. Any ideas? John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=502339#502339


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    Time: 05:28:55 PM PST US
    From: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@frontier.com>
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    I remember seeing this approach somewhere also, I want to say from Stein Bru ch at Steinair. He simply used good quality pins and sockets and then mated them and individually heat shrunk them as you describe. I think he may hav e put a larger heat shrink sleeve over the entire bundle for an extra payer o f protection and neatness. It looked like a neat and tidy solution. Certai nly not as quick to disconnect as an actual connector, but then how often do you remove the elevator or tail of your airplane? I am considering this approach, but may also just use a 0.062 pitch mini mol ex as they are fairly robust and small, but not weatherproof. A 5 pin Weath erpack or Metripack is weatherproof, but much bulkier. Matt Sent from my iPad > On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote: > > =EF=BB > Machined subD pins should work fine; if needed strip twice as much and dou ble the wire before inserting in the pin. If you want them 'orderly', use a 9 pin housing; otherwise just use heat shrink over each mated pair. > > Wish I could claim the idea.. ;-) > > Charlie > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:25 PM Tom Barter <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.ne t> wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> >> >> I=99m in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, a nd am wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads comi ng out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire control cable that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company used to offer a small, r ound pin connector for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be abl e to disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if possible. An y suggestions for a connector for fine wires like that appreciated. >> >> >> >> Tom Barter >> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com


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    Time: 06:21:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    The technique is detailed on the Aeroelectric Connection site; I think Bob has a 'comic book' detailing it. But the technique is pretty much everywhere in the wild now. Charlie On 6/11/2021 7:28 PM, Matthew S. Whiting wrote: > I remember seeing this approach somewhere also, I want to say from > Stein Bruch at Steinair. He simply used good quality pins and sockets > and then mated them and individually heat shrunk them as you describe. > I think he may have put a larger heat shrink sleeve over the entire > bundle for an extra payer of protection and neatness. It looked like > a neat and tidy solution. Certainly not as quick to disconnect as an > actual connector, but then how often do you remove the elevator or > tail of your airplane? > > I am considering this approach, but may also just use a 0.062 pitch > mini molex as they are fairly robust and small, but not weatherproof. > A 5 pin Weatherpack or Metripack is weatherproof, but much bulkier. > Matt > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 11, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Machined subD pins should work fine; if needed strip twice as much >> and double the wire before inserting in the pin. If you want them >> 'orderly', use a 9 pin housing; otherwise just use heat shrink over >> each mated pair. >> >> Wish I could claim the idea.. ;-) >> >> Charlie >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 5:25 PM Tom Barter >> <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net >> <mailto:kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net>> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> Im in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, >> and am wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 >> gauge leads coming out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 >> gauge five wire control cable that will be routed up to the >> cockpit. The company used to offer a small, round pin connector >> for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be able to >> disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if >> possible. Any suggestions for a connector for fine wires like >> that appreciated. >> >> Tom Barter >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> >> <#m_1956570227212391193_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 09:05:47 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator connections
    For those tiny wires I like to use crimp-type D-sub pins and sockets. Stagger the joints and heat-shrink each one, then heat-shrink all five. They don't need to be in a housing. It makes a fairly small and manageable bulge. I think Bob has a write-up on this technique. --Dave On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Tom Barter <kesleyelectric@iowatelecom.net> wrote: > Greetings, > > > I=99m in the process of installing an MAC/Ray Allen trim actuator, and am > wondering what the best way is to connect the five 26 gauge leads coming > out of the actuator to the corresponding 26 gauge five wire control cable > that will be routed up to the cockpit. The company used to offer a small , > round pin connector for that purpose, but not any more. Would like to be > able to disconnect the actuator rather than cut solder joints, if > possible. Any suggestions for a connector for fine wires like that > appreciated. > > > Tom Barter > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free . > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm _campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_-5396615780775197602_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >




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