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Mon 02/14/22


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 08:30 AM - Re: HUGE INCREASE IN MOAs PLANNED...Please Help!!! (William Hunter)
     2. 09:15 AM - Re: HUGE INCREASE IN MOAs PLANNED...Please Help!!! (Charlie England)
     3. 09:19 AM - Re: $20 HF Battery Load Tester (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:30:09 AM PST US
    From: William Hunter <billhuntersemail@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: HUGE INCREASE IN MOAs PLANNED...Please Help!!!
    Fellow Aviators, Sorry this post is off topic for aircraft electrical systems however this issue will affect thousands of pilots...and their airplanes that have electrical systems (that's the aero-electric connection) Can you please help us get the word out and fight this issue? The Military is planning on expanding the geographic size and lower the height of the MOAs in central Arizona and New Mexico down to 500 AGL and this will negatively impact hundreds of airports and make if very difficult for GA pilots to circumnavigate these larger chunks of airspace. Here is the map of the airspace that they want to increase: https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/overview-of-proposed-action/ <https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/overview-of-proposed-action/> This MOA increase is way bigger than the pilots who fly through or to the airports under the MOA. If you look at the Air Force map it affects a HUGE CHUNK of Arizona and New Mexico. This will not just negatively impact GA pilots because the Air Force is wanting to allow sonic booms 24 hours a day in this expanded region so that means EVERYONE WHO LIVES/ VISITS/ HIKES/ RIDES/ DRIVES/ BOATS/ CAMPS UNDER THE MOA will be negatively impacted!!! We have lots of ranchers and horse people and they are really concerned about their livestock getting heart attacks. Can you imagine riding a horse and have a fighter jet scream 500 feet overhead at 600 MPH? Can you imagine riding a motorcycle or out camping and have this happen? This is a BIG DEAL that will affect hundreds of thousands of people each year so we are asking for the help of our fellow aviators to contact the Air Force and the elected officials (contact information below) and get the word out to stop this. If you frequent other social media for hiking/ biking/ camping/ etc can you please post about this? Does anyone have a connection with the AOPA/ EAA/ etc that can help? Here is a write up that we would kindly ask that you share and act on. Please help and again sorry for the off topic post!!! We are ALL AFFECTED...SO WE SHOULD ALL SPEAK OUT!!! --------------------------------------COPY--------------------------------------------------------- How would you like to be relaxing at home, on a drive, riding, or out camping and have an Air Force fighter jet roar 500 feet above your head at 600 MPH??? How would you like to hear a SONIC BOOM at any moment of the 24 HOUR DAY (you dont know the boom is comingjust unexpectedly there is a VERY LOUD EXPLOSION all around you and it can break your windows)??? How would your animals like to experience this really loud and startling explosion? Would your animal have a heart attack? Would you...or the person driving your car/ motorcycle? Well guess what??? The Air Force is wanting to GREATLY EXPAND their Military Operations Area (MOA) jet training areas outward and down to ONLY 500 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND in HUGE SECTIONS OF ARIZONA/ NEW MEXICO. You think I am joking??? Here is the map of the airspace that they want to increase: https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/overview-of-proposed-action/ <https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/overview-of-proposed-action/> THIS AFFECTS EVERYONE WHO LIVES/ VISITS/ HIKES/ RIDES/ BOATS UNDER THE MOA!!! PLEASETHE PEOPLE OF CENTRAL ARIZONA/ WESTERN NEW MEXICO NEED TO FIGHT THIS!!! EACH PERSON IN YOUR HOUSEALL YOUR NEIGHBORSYOUR FRIENDSYOUR RELATIVES ALL NEED TO HELP US AND CALL AND SEND AN EMAIL TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO STOP THIS!!! Send this message to your friends who hike, camp, ride, boat, fly airplanes and post it on every forum you know. Here is the contact websites for our federal representatives and Air Force so please CALL THEM and send them the attached letter: AZ US Senator Mark Kelly: 602-671-7901https://www.kelly.senate.gov/ <https://www.kelly.senate.gov/> AZ US Senator Kristen Sinema: (602) 598-7327https://www.sinema.senate.gov/contact-kyrsten <https://www.sinema.senate.gov/contact-kyrsten> AZ US Rep Paul Gosar: (928) 445-1683https://gosar.house.gov/contact/ <https://gosar.house.gov/contact/> AZ US Rep Tom OHalleran: 928-286-5338https://ohalleran.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email <https://ohalleran.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email> AZ US Rep Raul Grijalva: (623) 536-3388https://grijalva.house.gov/contact-raul/ <https://grijalva.house.gov/contact-raul/> AZ US Rep Ann Kirkpatrick: 520-881-3588https://kirkpatrick.house.gov/contact/email-me/ <https://kirkpatrick.house.gov/contact/email-me/> NM Senator Martin Heinrich: (575) 523-6561https://www.heinrich.senate.gov/contact/write-martin <https://www.heinrich.senate.gov/contact/write-martin> NM Senator Ben Lujn: 575-252-6188https://www.lujan.senate.gov/contact/contact-form/ <https://www.lujan.senate.gov/contact/contact-form/> NM US Rep Yvette Herrell: (575) 323-6390https://herrell.house.gov/contact <https://herrell.house.gov/contact> Military Website:https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/comments/ <https://www.arizonaregionalairspaceeis.com/comments/> Write: NO On The Expansion Of The Military Operations Area In West-Central Arizona! I am providing specific information relevant to the Proposed Action: -The Air Force should take NO ACTION to modify or expand the MOA airspace. -More jet noise will ruin the quiet enjoyment of our residential properties and camping/ riding/ boating/ hiking areas. -Sonic booms sound like a large explosion and this noise will damage our homes and scare people, livestock, and wild animals. -These MOA changes would greatly reduce our property values as rural residential property. -There are 40 airports in the Gladden MOA alone that will be affected. -The use and enjoyment of camping and hiking will be negatively affected by jet noise. -How would these loud noises negatively affect the native species of birds, animals, reptiles, and insects? -What kind of long term environmental impact studies have been conducted and what are the results?


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    Time: 09:15:18 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: HUGE INCREASE IN MOAs PLANNED...Please Help!!!
    Just replied to your post over on HBA.


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    Time: 09:19:45 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: $20 HF Battery Load Tester
    >Living in Switzerland it's not so easy to get such a unit (all this high amp >testers are 500-1000 $!!) I did source a 100A one (see link below), >so will test soon (ordered via a friend in the US that 500A "clearance" >model for the future :) > ><https://www.harborfreight.com/100a-612v-battery-load-tester-61747.html>https://www.harborfreight.com/100a-612v-battery-load-tester-61747.html I've been aware of this offering by HF for years but didn't pay much attention having a strong bias for the more capable, well instrumented carbon pile load tester. I was also skeptical of the "100A" load claim, things just didn't 'look' that robust. Tried to pick one up at HF a couple weeks ago. No joy. Nearest store with stock was 150 miles away. Started poking around on the 'net and discovered that this device has many cousins and ancestors going back decades. Nearly identical testers were offered under a constellation of brands and prices . . . from $20 at HF to $160 at some fru-fru autoparts stores. Found offerings on eBay for used testers that had been around for a very long time . . . with some individuals hoping to get too many dollars for devices too often rode-hard-and-put-away-wet. Even found some re-branded by Schumacher of well known battery test and maintenance products. Okay, went ahead and ordered one off some website. It came in last week and I just had to get a quick looksee on fabrication and performance. Don't have time right now to cite all the details but know that it IS INDEED and 100A load (measured 106A on a well maintained 100Ah battery). Also opened it up for a non-destructive teardown. I'll be doing a Bob's Shop Notes on this product and its clones. But for now, know that IT IS a useful alternative to some more expensive (and bulkier) test sets. I would not discourage the notion to acquire one before I can do the big data dump, At $20 from HF, it's a good value. Bob . . . Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane out of that stuff?"




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