---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/13/22: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:36 AM - Low profile connector plug (Peter Pengilly) 2. 03:32 AM - Re: Low profile connector plug (Stuart Hutchison) 3. 03:41 AM - Re: Low profile connector plug (Werner Schneider) 4. 05:56 AM - Re: Low profile connector plug (Art Zemon) 5. 08:13 AM - Re: Low profile connector plug (Charlie England) 6. 08:24 PM - Re: Low profile connector plug (Charles Kuss) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:19 AM PST US From: "Peter Pengilly" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug I have installed a new tail light in my rudder and want to improve the connector. Previously I had the regular Whelen strobe & position moles connectors which made removing the rudder particularly difficult. I have fitted an LED strobe/position light so have more flexibility in what can be used. It has 4 terminals - strobe power, position power, ground & strobe sync - I'm using 20 & 22g wire. The rudder doesn't have to be removed often but I don't want to have to cut anything other than the odd cable tie. I have a 3/8" conduit that penetrates the stern post - the terminals or connector should pass through that. Currently the favourite is one of these https://uk.farnell.com/cinch-connectivity-solutions/4-140/terminal-block-bar rier-4pos-8awg/dp/1608627 with ring terminals. Does anyone have any easily available (in Europe) alternatives? Peter ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:33 AM PST US From: Stuart Hutchison Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug UGxlbnR5IG9mIDQtcGluIE1vbGV4IGNvbm5lY3RvcnMgb3V0IHRoZXJlIG9yIHlvdSBjb3VsZCBq dXN0IHVzZSBhIDktcGluIEQtc3ViIGNvbm5lY3Rvci4gIElmIHlvdSBkb27igJl0IGhhdmUgYWNj ZXNzIHRvIGEgRC1zdWIgcGluIGNyaW1wZXIsIGp1c3QgZ2V0IGNvbm5lY3RvciBoYWx2ZXMgd2l0 aCBzb2xkZXIgcGlucyBhbmQgYmUgc3VyZSB0byB1c2UgaGVhdCBzaHJpbmsgZm9yIHN0cmFpbiBy ZWxpZWYuICBUaGUgcGF0dGVybiBpcyB1bml2ZXJzYWwsIHNvIGVhc3kgdG8gbWFrZSBhIHBsYXRl IG1vdW50IGZvciB0aGUgYWlyZnJhbWUgc2lkZS4sIHRoZW4geW91IGNhbiBqdXN0IGNvbm5lY3Qg dGhlIHJ1ZGRlciBhbmQgc2VjdXJlIHdpdGggYSBjYWJsZSB0aWUgb3IgdXNlIGJhY2tzaGVsbHMg d2l0aCBzY3JldyBsb2Nrcy4NCg0KUmVnYXJkcywgU3R1YXJ0DQoNCk9uIDEzIE1hciAyMDIyLCBh dCA4OjM1IHBtLCBQZXRlciBQZW5naWxseSA8UGV0ZXJAc3BvcnRpbmdhZXJvLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86 UGV0ZXJAc3BvcnRpbmdhZXJvLmNvbT4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpJIGhhdmUgaW5zdGFsbGVkIGEgbmV3 IHRhaWwgbGlnaHQgaW4gbXkgcnVkZGVyIGFuZCB3YW50IHRvIGltcHJvdmUgdGhlIGNvbm5lY3Rv ci4NClByZXZpb3VzbHkgSSBoYWQgdGhlIHJlZ3VsYXIgV2hlbGVuIHN0cm9iZSAmIHBvc2l0aW9u IG1vbGVzIGNvbm5lY3RvcnMgd2hpY2ggbWFkZSByZW1vdmluZyB0aGUgcnVkZGVyIHBhcnRpY3Vs YXJseSBkaWZmaWN1bHQuDQpJIGhhdmUgZml0dGVkIGFuIExFRCBzdHJvYmUvcG9zaXRpb24gbGln aHQgc28gaGF2ZSBtb3JlIGZsZXhpYmlsaXR5IGluIHdoYXQgY2FuIGJlIHVzZWQuDQpJdCBoYXMg NCB0ZXJtaW5hbHMg4oCTIHN0cm9iZSBwb3dlciwgcG9zaXRpb24gcG93ZXIsIGdyb3VuZCAmIHN0 cm9iZSBzeW5jIOKAkyBJ4oCZbSB1c2luZyAyMCAmIDIyZyB3aXJlLg0KVGhlIHJ1ZGRlciBkb2Vz buKAmXQgaGF2ZSB0byBiZSByZW1vdmVkIG9mdGVuIGJ1dCBJIGRvbuKAmXQgd2FudCB0byBoYXZl IHRvIGN1dCBhbnl0aGluZyBvdGhlciB0aGFuIHRoZSBvZGQgY2FibGUgdGllLg0KSSBoYXZlIGEg My844oCdIGNvbmR1aXQgdGhhdCBwZW5ldHJhdGVzIHRoZSBzdGVybiBwb3N0IOKAkyB0aGUgdGVy bWluYWxzIG9yIGNvbm5lY3RvciBzaG91bGQgcGFzcyB0aHJvdWdoIHRoYXQuDQpDdXJyZW50bHkg dGhlIGZhdm91cml0ZSBpcyBvbmUgb2YgdGhlc2UgaHR0cHM6Ly91ay5mYXJuZWxsLmNvbS9jaW5j aC1jb25uZWN0aXZpdHktc29sdXRpb25zLzQtMTQwL3Rlcm1pbmFsLWJsb2NrLWJhcnJpZXItNHBv cy04YXdnL2RwLzE2MDg2Mjcgd2l0aCByaW5nIHRlcm1pbmFscy4NCg0KRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUgaGF2 ZSBhbnkgZWFzaWx5IGF2YWlsYWJsZSAoaW4gRXVyb3BlKSBhbHRlcm5hdGl2ZXM/DQoNClBldGVy DQoNCg= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug From: Werner Schneider Peter, I would go CPC connectors, but you might need another tool for crimping: https://uk.farnell.com/amp-te-connectivity/206061-1/circular-connector-rcp t-11-4-panel/dp/589688?st=cpc there are plenty of different styles for that you might have to dig into i t. Or use a DB9 and remove the pins to get the cables through the conduit? good luck Werner On 13.03.2022 10:35, Peter Pengilly wrote: > > I have installed a new tail light in my rudder and want to improve the > connector. > Previously I had the regular Whelen strobe & position moles connectors > which made removing the rudder particularly difficult. > I have fitted an LED strobe/position light so have more flexibility in > what can be used. > It has 4 terminals =93 strobe power, position power, ground & stro be > sync =93 I=99m using 20 & 22g wire. > The rudder doesn=99t have to be removed often but I don=99t want to have > to cut anything other than the odd cable tie. > I have a 3/8=9D conduit that penetrates the stern post =93 t he terminals > or connector should pass through that. > Currently the favourite is one of these > https://uk.farnell.com/cinch-connectivity-solutions/4-140/terminal-block -barrier-4pos-8awg/dp/1608627 > with ring terminals. > > Does anyone have any easily available (in Europe) alternatives? > > Peter > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:31 AM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug Peter, I used automobile trailer wiring plugs for my fuel tank senders, which only required three wires. The plugs are cheap, virtually indestructible, and readily available anywhere should I ever need to replace one. You can see my installation in the photo at the bottom of this blog post . I used the flat kind, like this https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Hopkins/HM48235.html but similar sturdy connectors are available in several form factors. Check the aviation aisle of your local auto parts store. Cheers, -- Art Z. On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 4:51 AM Peter Pengilly wrote: > I have installed a new tail light in my rudder and want to improve the > connector. > Previously I had the regular Whelen strobe & position moles connectors > which made removing the rudder particularly difficult. > I have fitted an LED strobe/position light so have more flexibility in > what can be used. > It has 4 terminals =93 strobe power, position power, ground & strob e sync =93 > I=99m using 20 & 22g wire. > The rudder doesn=99t have to be removed often but I don=99t w ant to have to > cut anything other than the odd cable tie. > I have a 3/8=9D conduit that penetrates the stern post =93 th e terminals or > connector should pass through that. > Currently the favourite is one of these > https://uk.farnell.com/cinch-connectivity-solutions/4-140/terminal-block- barrier-4pos-8awg/dp/1608627 > with ring terminals. > > Does anyone have any easily available (in Europe) alternatives? > > > Peter > -- My blog: CheerfulCurmudgeon.com *The good is already there. Practicing gratitude means being fully aware of the good that is already yours.* ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug From: Charlie England On 3/13/2022 4:35 AM, Peter Pengilly wrote: > > I have installed a new tail light in my rudder and want to improve the > connector. > Previously I had the regular Whelen strobe & position moles connectors > which made removing the rudder particularly difficult. > I have fitted an LED strobe/position light so have more flexibility in > what can be used. > It has 4 terminals strobe power, position power, ground & strobe > sync Im using 20 & 22g wire. > The rudder doesnt have to be removed often but I dont want to have > to cut anything other than the odd cable tie. > I have a 3/8 conduit that penetrates the stern post the terminals > or connector should pass through that. > Currently the favourite is one of these > https://uk.farnell.com/cinch-connectivity-solutions/4-140/terminal-block-barrier-4pos-8awg/dp/1608627 > with ring terminals. > > Does anyone have any easily available (in Europe) alternatives? > > Peter > Others have mentioned subD connectors. Assuming color coded wires... If you use the machined pins, you can crimp male/female pairs for each wire, and instead of using the housing & shell, just slide a short length of shrink tubing over each joined pair & shrink it. They'll never come apart on their own, and if you need to remove the rudder, just slit the shrink tubing. I think Bob has a cookbook drawing on the AEC website. Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:07 PM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low profile connector plug Charlie beat me to making his suggestion, so I'll second it. Be sure to st agger where you make these connections, so that you don't have a big wad of connectors in on place to get through to hole in the rudder bottom and the vertical stabilizer spar. On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 09:15:02 PM EDT, Charlie England wrote: On 3/13/2022 4:35 AM, Peter Pengilly wrote: _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv3250331820 p.yiv3250331820MsoNormal, #yiv325 0331820 li.yiv3250331820MsoNormal, #yiv3250331820 div.yiv3250331820MsoNorma l {margin:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv32503 31820 a:link, #yiv3250331820 span.yiv3250331820MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3250331820 span.yiv3250331820EmailStyle17 {f ont-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv3250331820 .yiv32503 31820MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv3250331820 div.y iv3250331820WordSection1 {} I have installed a new tail light in my rudder and want to improve the conn ector. Previously I had the regular Whelen strobe & position moles connectors whi ch made removing the rudder particularly difficult. I have fitted an LED strobe/position light so have more flexibility in wha t can be used. It has 4 terminals =93 strobe power, position power, ground & strobe sync =93 I=99m using 20 & 22g wire. The rudder doesn=99t have to be removed often but I don=99t wa nt to have to cut anything other than the odd cable tie. I have a 3/8=9D conduit that penetrates the stern post =93 the terminals or connector should pass through that. Currently the favourite is one of these https://uk.farnell.com/cinch-conne ctivity-solutions/4-140/terminal-block-barrier-4pos-8awg/dp/1608627 with ri ng terminals. Does anyone have any easily available (in Europe) alternatives? =C2- Peter Others have mentioned subD connectors. Assuming color coded wires... If yo u use the machined pins, you can crimp male/female pairs for each wire, and instead of using the housing & shell, just slide a short length of shrink tubing over each joined pair & shrink it. They'll never come apart on their own, and if you need to remove the rudder, just slit the shrink tubing. I think Bob has a cookbook drawing on the AEC website. 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