---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/25/22: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:31 AM - Re: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz (Charlie England) 2. 05:03 PM - Re: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz (rd2) 3. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz (Roger & Jean) 4. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz (rd2) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:04 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz What's the roofline of the hangar look like? Most metal buildings have gaps where the ridge cap covers the roofing (easy to run an antenna cable through). A 4" black spike on a magnetic base attached far from the edges of the roof would be out of sight from the ground, and virtually invisible from the air. Biggest trick would be getting it up there without being seen. On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:19 AM rd2 wrote: > Yeah, I tried this method, but it did not work... had a similar 8 dB > antenna (supposedly) specifically tuned to my frequency from amazon. > Magnetic base on a T-shaped bracket high (close to ceiling) electrically > connected to hangar wall. (all my T-hangar walls are sheet metal); have a > way to measure signal strength - no difference...seems the only way is to > bring a camouflaged antenna to the outside. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Carter > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tue, 24 May 2022 13:21:17 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz > > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 1:06 PM rd2 wrote: > >> Thanks David, however an antenna that looks like an antenna is what I >> want to avoid due to FBO restrictions. >> >> > 100% understand. I found that all I needed to do with mine was to raise it > a few feet on the interior wall of the metal t-hangar to get adequate > reception. The fire-resistant dividing walls in the hangar are sheetrock > attached with screws. The magnetic base of the antenna grips one of the > screw heads about 10' up & very close to the sliding metal door. It's > inside, so no one is the wiser. > > --- > David Carter > david@carter.net > > >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:48 PM PST US From: rd2 Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Not doable either... and can't get up without being seen. Roof of a row of T-hangars is pretty flat and in proximity for observation. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie England Sent: Wed, 25 May 2022 09:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz What's the roofline of the hangar look like? Most metal buildings have gaps where the ridge cap covers the roofing (easy to run an antenna cable through). A 4" black spike on a magnetic base attached far from the edges of the roof would be out of sight from the ground, and virtually invisible from the air. Biggest trick would be getting it up there without being seen. On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:19 AM rd2 wrote: Yeah, I tried this method, but it did not work... had a similar 8 dB antenna (supposedly) specifically tuned to my frequency from amazon. Magnetic base on a T-shaped bracket high (close to ceiling) electrically connected to hangar wall. (all my T-hangar walls are sheet metal); have a way to measure signal strength - no difference...seems the only way is to bring a camouflaged antenna to the outside. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Carter Sent: Tue, 24 May 2022 13:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 1:06 PM rd2 wrote: Thanks David, however an antenna that looks like an antenna is what I want to avoid due to FBO restrictions. 100% understand. I found that all I needed to do with mine was to raise it a few feet on the interior wall of the metal t-hangar to get adequate reception. The fire-resistant dividing walls in the hangar are sheetrock attached with screws. The magnetic base of the antenna grips one of the screw heads about 10' up & very close to the sliding metal door. It's inside, so no one is the wiser. --- David Carter david@carter.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:17 PM PST US From: Roger & Jean Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Sent from Mail for Windows From: rd2 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 8:05 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Not doable either... and can't get up without being seen. Roof of a row of T-hangars is pretty flat and in proximity for observation. Can you get to the roof from inside, punch a small hole, in an inconspicuou s spot, and feed the cable as Joe Gores described, out the hole. By the wa y, if I were to make up this antenna I would finish it off with a piece of shrink tubing long enough to cover the braid exposed on the surface. Roger ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:13 PM PST US From: rd2 Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Good ideas (to work from inside). The question is would such antenna lying flat on the roof (horizontal) or one hanging down sticking to the wall work better. (?) ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger & Jean Sent: Wed, 25 May 2022 20:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Sent from Mail for Windows From: rd2 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 8:05 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: simple antenna for 704 mHz Not doable either... and can't get up without being seen. Roof of a row of T-hangars is pretty flat and in proximity for observation. Can you get to the roof from inside, punch a small hole, in an inconspicuous spot, and feed the cable as Joe Gores described, out the hole. By the way, if I were to make up this antenna I would finish it off with a piece of shrink tubing long enough to cover the braid exposed on the surface. 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