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Fri 12/16/22


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:18 AM - Re: 12v to 9v converter (Jim Merrill)
     2. 12:03 PM - Matronics Email List Digest Operational Change...  (Matt Dralle)
     3. 01:46 PM - KX155 available (rd2)
     4. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: 12v to 9v converter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     5. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: 12v to 9v converter (Charlie England)
     6. 07:32 PM - Re: 12v to 9v converter (Eric Page)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:18:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 12v to 9v converter
    From: "Jim Merrill" <glastar5901@gmail.com>
    Thanks for the excellent replies. My headsets have anr modules from Headsets Inc.. According to them the modules require " a very stable power supply.Do not attempt to power them directly from the aircraft".They say voltage spikes and static will damage the very sensitive circuits. Hmmmm! They do sell ($40 each) a panel mount unit that has-"dual voltage regulators and is isolated with a DC/DC converter. It seems to me that since I have no charging system in the plane that isolation wouldn't be necessary. The simplest solution would be to cough up $98 for 2 of their units but I am the ultimate tightwad! Good call on the cheaper batteries- they are on my list now! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509597#509597


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    Time: 12:03:47 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Matronics Email List Digest Operational Change...
    Dear Matronics Listers, Beginning December 16, 2022, I am planning to modify the way Matronics List Digest Email is handled. A Digest message will be sent daily ONLY if there is at least ONE message posted to the Realtime List on the given day. If there are no messages posted *No Digest will be sent*. This change is being made to soften the SPAM filtering effect in the Internet at large on the "Matronics.com" domain. Matronics.com is frequently unceremoniously blocked because of perceived "SPAM" content. For example, yahoo.com along with a number of other significant domains has been blocking matronics.com for a long time. Hopefully, this operational change will address the issue. Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator


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    Time: 01:46:51 PM PST US
    From: rd2 <rd2@dejazzd.com>
    Subject: KX155 available
    Hi listers, Due to a panel upgrade our 28V KX155 w/GS along with tray, connector, and KI 209 indicator will be available. I had it just checked to make sure it is to spec (recent 8130). If anyone is interested, please contact me off-list at rd2 at dejazzd dot com. Rumen


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    Time: 02:09:53 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: 12v to 9v converter
    At 08:17 AM 12/16/2022, you wrote: > >Thanks for the excellent replies. My headsets have anr modules from >Headsets Inc.. According to them the modules require " a very stable >power supply.Do not attempt to power them directly from the >aircraft".They say voltage spikes and static will damage the very >sensitive circuits. Hmmmm! Agree with the 3-terminal regulator solution but acquiring a 7809 can be expensive. The part is available and cheap https://tinyurl.com/2zcf3vcr but shipping minimums are problematic. The LM317 ADJUSTABLE regulator can be used too . . . and I've got a fist full in a drawer. Can send you a couple along with the resistors and capacitors to craft your own VERY stable, VERY quiet, 9v supply. *NOTE* changing from a battery (totally isolated, floating supply) to a ship's system power source raises potential for ground-loop generated noises. A quiet, ISOLATED ground, DC/DC converter would probably work fine and bring no issues with it. Those little Amazon offers are priced right and a cheap experiment. It's easy to test for input-output ground isolation. > The simplest solution would be to cough up $98 for 2 of their > units but I am the ultimate tightwad! Good call on the cheaper > batteries- they are on my list now! My intercom uses a 9v battery too . . . I can't remember how many times I replaced it during 10+ years of service . . . two maybe? Compared to other expenses of operating the airplane, batteries for headsets were trivial. In fact, for the last 10 years I was actively flying, I would put fresh AA cells in my DUAL hand held GPS receivers EVERY outbound departure to avoid changing cells while airborne with risk of dropping cell, battery case back, in turbulence or dark etc. Back then, AA cells from Sams were about $.26 each so the fresh-set-every-trip only added about a dollar to the expense. Of course, if your headsets use the clip-in 9V batteries, those are considerably more than $.26! But then, how often do you need to replace them? Bob . . . Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane out of that stuff?"


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    Time: 02:56:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 12v to 9v converter
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    On 12/16/2022 4:09 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > At 08:17 AM 12/16/2022, you wrote: >> <glastar5901@gmail.com> >> >> Thanks for the excellent replies. My headsets have anr modules from >> Headsets Inc.. According to them the modules require " a very stable >> power supply.Do not attempt to power them directly from the >> aircraft".They say voltage spikes and static will damage the very >> sensitive circuits. Hmmmm! > > Agree with the 3-terminal regulator solution but acquiring > a 7809 can be expensive. The part is available and cheap > > https://tinyurl.com/2zcf3vcr > > but shipping minimums are problematic. > [snipped] My bad; I should have just said, 'generic 1.5A 7809 regulator'. Like ebay regulator <https://www.ebay.com/itm/295336432626?hash=item44c36c53f2:g:3PsAAOSw9YdfQAIV&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAkPGyaruPFwk7evYbjo3gDb80EFq4AGxzrKozKXpGPqz%2Bh0B6GrReCgtd8bVaJrWUwUBd1h1Djz7aStijcA7Siga6g0%2B%2BrMzejHleBRDUEMG9L22G%2F3gagpAX9GNPI%2BOK4hW4BuLyRGAY9tpMfvkTXdvi5oH6xEg4a4Sd%2F2eRNAWvqEbu4FMWcz%2FB08Xjk7APcg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8iV5dGjYQ> Or, for a lifetime supply for any conceivable a/c need: Amazon regulator kit <https://www.ebay.com/itm/295336432626?hash=item44c36c53f2:g:3PsAAOSw9YdfQAIV&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAkPGyaruPFwk7evYbjo3gDb80EFq4AGxzrKozKXpGPqz%2Bh0B6GrReCgtd8bVaJrWUwUBd1h1Djz7aStijcA7Siga6g0%2B%2BrMzejHleBRDUEMG9L22G%2F3gagpAX9GNPI%2BOK4hW4BuLyRGAY9tpMfvkTXdvi5oH6xEg4a4Sd%2F2eRNAWvqEbu4FMWcz%2FB08Xjk7APcg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8iV5dGjYQ,or, for a lifetime supply meeting every conceivable a/c need:,https://smile.amazon.com/BOJACK-Package-Positive-Regulator-Assortment/dp/B07T5ZHY63/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3HCXSN27IUIM3&keywords=lm7809&qid=1671230714&sprefix=lm7809%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExSVcwRjMyN1E2QjJFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODcxMjI5M0U1VTEzSzFOMk9aOSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjcwMDI4MllKVUVJM1RPNjI1NCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=> Charlie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com


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    Time: 07:32:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 12v to 9v converter
    From: "Eric Page" <edpav8r@yahoo.com>
    Jim Merrill wrote: > Edit- I just saw these- > https://www.amazon.com/NOYITO-Terminal-Voltage-Regulator-Module/dp/B08BZG8MZ8/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1KV3C1L94CT9P&keywords=lm7809&qid=1671204614&sprefix=lm7809%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-4 > any advantage to these over the voltage regulator by itself? Yes, indeed. The 7809 version of that is exactly what you want: all the necessary components neatly packaged on a small board. You probably couldn't source the parts for those modules for what they're charging for them. After you screw down the terminals good and tight on your wires, put a few drops of superglue on them so they won't vibrate loose on you. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=509686#509686




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