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Wed 03/29/23


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 10:45 AM - Re: Fusible Link for Lightspeed Ignition (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 11:00 AM - Speaking of Lessons Learned (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:45:15 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fusible Link for Lightspeed Ignition
    At 01:04 PM 3/28/2023, you wrote: >I am using dual lightspeed ignitions on my project. Lightspeed's >instructions specify using 18ga shielded wire, the shield used as >the ground return and wiring directly from the battery to a 7.5 amp >panel circuit breaker. I want to use a fusible links to protect the >wires from the battteries to the circuit breaker. I acquired 14 >gauge shielded wire. My plan was to separate the conductor from the >shield, use an 18ga conductor for the fusible link and solder an 18 >ga ground lead to the shield. The problem I am having is separating >the center wire from the shield. I end up breaking 30 to 50% of the >tiny shield strands while separating the center conductor. The >resulting connection is less than ideal both electrically and >security wise. I'm thinking a better method would be to roll shield >back over the outer insulation and use a solder sleeve with an 18ga >pigtail. I have made a couple practice connections and they seem >very secure, especially when the whole joint is reinforced with some >additional heat shrink. Does this seem like an okay approach? It's a >very important termination. I've had numerous conversations with Klaus about his power delivery suggestions over the years . . . the last being while witnessing some tests on his product during an inquiry as to cause of a LA-IV crash out in CA. https://tinyurl.com/52kbwra8 This case was intently interested in the performance of those 'very important terminations'. The engine died in an approach to landing and ended up on the rocks. Both fuses feeding the pair of ignition systems were open. As it turns out, the system was DESIGNED to fail as explained in analysis documentation. The project also showed lapses in choice of materials and fabrication processes. Which brings me to this assertion: Failure of your ignition system(s) will most likely be a product of poor design and/or installation error. The accident cited above was a demonstration of BOTH of these effects. Klaus' recommendations are not 'wrong' . . . just unnecessary . . . and they ignore a century of lessons learned in the design and fabrication of reliable aircraft systems. Others have cited some of my writings on the topic of Lightspeed systems. But in a nutshell, the use of shielded wire connected directly to battery(ies) driving panel mounted breakers is both unnecessary and contrary to a 747-load of lessons learned. Those ignition systems will draw no more than 2.5A at red-line rpm. Each one would run happily fed by 5A fuse (from either a hot battery or multi-path fed engine bus) and 20AWG wire (for mechanical robustness, not current draw). You have TWO systems, each of which will run the engine. They are pre-flight tested. If some failure takes out a fuse (or opens a breaker), being able to restore the power path is of exceedingly low value . . . it will just re-open due to the fault that caused the first event. You can confidently skip the shielded wire and crew-monitored circuit protection while exploiting benefits of legacy- proven design and fabrication techniques. Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ In the interest of creative evolution of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and good practice.


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    Time: 11:00:13 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Speaking of Lessons Learned
    Electrical 'bonding' of components in aircraft is accomplished for some combination of three requirements (1) reliable connection of a device to power ground, (2) mitigation of radio frequency interference and/or (3) managing the effects of electro-static discharge (ESD). Here's a good example of failure to manage ESD back before we'd been schooled in 'lessons learned' . . . 1929 https://youtu.be/LR02blpCJMk Some pretty cool detective work here . . . Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ In the interest of creative evolution of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and good practice.




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