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     1. 05:57 AM - Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Mudfly)
     2. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Charlie England)
     4. 07:14 AM - Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Eric Page)
     5. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     6. 01:59 PM - Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Mudfly)
     7. 10:53 PM - Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Eric Page)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      
      Thanks Bob.
      I like these two ideas you mentioned in your post.
      
      1. "One could drive the HOBBS through
      a voltage sensitive switch that
      runs the meter if the bus is above
      13.5 volts (alternator delivering power)."
      
      2. "If you've got an electronic tachometer,
      the signal used to drive the tach could
      be easily conditioned to become an
      activity switch for the hour meter.
      
      I'm using a 3 wire (+,-, and enable pins) LCD meter and 
      would like the numbers to display when battery is 
      switched on, but not start the timer.   I'm having trouble 
      finding a wire diagram for my unit, but guess the enable
      pin goes to ground.   I will need to do some more 
      homework to see if I can make the  options you mentioned work.   
      I'm using garmin stuff so possibly there's a way to
      make either option 1 or 2 above work.  If not, I may have to resort back
      to using the oil pressure switch.   
      Thanks again,
      Shawn
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510662#510662
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      
      >   You can generally pick one with threads
      >   that exactly match the engine's oil
      >   pressure port without adapters hence
      >   very low risk of leaks when joint is
      >   made up with proper application of
      >   Teflon tape.
      
           Follow up:
      
           I've received a couple of notes from
           learned List readers that Teflon tape
           as a thread sealant comes with some
           risks.
      
           I remember writing paragraphs in Cessna
           field service documents describing the
           'proper application' of Teflon tape
           on certain fluid fittings. If the
           tape's wrappings extend too far down
           the taper, there is risk that some
           shreds created by the mating forces
           will be dropped into the fluid stream.
      
           Not a good thing. Back in '66 we
           were specific on the care taken to leave
           two threads of the fitting clear of
           tape such that ALL products of
           installation were contained in
           the joint.
      
           To be sure, there are less risky
           products out there for sealing
           of NPT (tapered pipe) threads and
           on the advice of our experienced
           readers, I would agree. Get some
           'better' dope if you can . . .
           but skillfully applied Teflon works
           too.
      
      
         Bob . . .
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:57=AFAM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
      nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
      
      >   You can generally pick one with threads
      >   that exactly match the engine's oil
      >   pressure port without adapters hence
      >   very low risk of leaks when joint is
      >   made up with proper application of
      >   Teflon tape.
      >
      >
      >     Follow up:
      >
      >     I've received a couple of notes from
      >     learned List readers that Teflon tape
      >     as a thread sealant comes with some
      >     risks.
      >
      >    (snipped)
      >     To be sure, there are less risky
      >     products out there for sealing
      >     of NPT (tapered pipe) threads and
      >     on the advice of our experienced
      >     readers, I would agree. Get some
      >     'better' dope if you can . . .
      >     but skillfully applied Teflon works
      >     too.
      >
      >
      >   Bob . . .
      >
      The concern with tape is that even if it's applied to the threads properly,
      upon removal of the device some of it can remain in the female threads, and
      get pushed into the passageway when the device is re-installed.
      I don't know whether that's a valid concern, but I use teflon dope so I
      don't have to find out. ;-)
      Charlie
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      
      I found this, and several other fittings like it, when disassembling the header
      tank plumbing on my second-hand Kitfox project.  The first builder had used Teflon
      tape in their assembly without proper care.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510665#510665
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      At 07:56 AM 4/21/2023, you wrote:
      >
      >Thanks Bob.
      >I like these two ideas you mentioned in your post.
      >
      >1. "One could drive the HOBBS through
      >a voltage sensitive switch that
      >runs the meter if the bus is above
      >13.5 volts (alternator delivering power)."
      
         I can sketch this circuit out
         for you. Is there an installation
         document for the make/model of
         your hour meter?
      
         Curious: What kind of ignition
         system do you have?
      
      
         Bob . . .
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      
      [quote="nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect"]At 07:56 AM 4/21/2023, you wrote:
      
       Thanks Bob.
       I like these two ideas you mentioned in your post.
      
       1. "One could drive the HOBBS through
       a voltage sensitive switch that
       runs the meter if the bus is above
       13.5 volts (alternator delivering power)." [/quote]
         I can sketch this circuit out
         for you. Is there an installation
         document for the make/model of
         your hour meter?
      
         Curious: What kind of ignition
         system do you have?
      
      
         Bob . . .
      
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      Bob,
      It's a Honeywell LM-HH3AS-H21.  The only document I have been able
      to find is the data sheet on this page.    
      https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/honeywell-sensing-and-productivity-solutions/LM-HH3AS-H21/5069695
      My current electrical diagram has the unit powered off the Main Power
      Bus so it should illuminate the LCD numbers when the battery is 
      switched on.   I need to find a home for wire from the enable pin.
      
      My planned ignition system is a SureFly on the left and a Slick mag
      on the right.   I'm working on a post for the list for a small can of worms
      I've opened with that system.
      Thanks,
      Shawn
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510667#510667
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/hobbs_3_873.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/hobbs_2_205.jpg
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/hobbs_1_592.jpg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? | 
      
      
      
      Mudfly wrote:
      > I'm having trouble finding a wire diagram for my unit, but guess the enable pin
      goes to ground.
      
      Here are the installation instructions for the unit you mentioned.  Wiring data
      is on the first page.  The enable pin is active high.
      
      https://tinyurl.com/386autu8+
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510668#510668
      
      
 
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