---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/19/23: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:24 AM - Stainless steel Cables (Bobby Paulk) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: Power, signal, and Coax - How should they be bundled? (wsimpso1) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Power, signal, and Coax - How should they be bundled? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:07 AM PST US From: Bobby Paulk Subject: AeroElectric-List: Stainless steel Cables When I was in the Air National Guard we got F-106's. They had poor quality stainless steel rudder cables that ran very close to the electronics bay. They soon became magnetized and caused problems. Naturally the full time guardsmen left the job of changing the cables to the part timers. The engine had to be pulled and we had to climb from the cockpit to the rudder inside the fuselage and remove the cables from all the pulleys and replace them with high quality stainless ones. That fixed the problem. Bobby Analog guy in a digital world :=) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:55 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Power, signal, and Coax - How should they be bundled? From: "wsimpso1" This one: https://www.actuonix.com/p16-50-256-12-p I calculated hinge moments on my trim tabs, and the other P-16's would back drive, but the 256:1 was adequate. Doing your own homework is essential. The system has to be able to move the tab against aero loads and then hold, ideally without feedback or power. For my purposes this actuator, a bellcrank with mechanical advantage of 1.54, and then my pushrod gives me the actuation force, needed travel, and supports a system adjustable for servo through anti-servo action for the tab. Billski Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512410#512410 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:24 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Power, signal, and Coax - How should they be bundled? >Menzimer . . . Actuonix . . . . etc These actuators are about as EMC friendly as any motor driven accessory can be. Actuators with 2500 pounds of push drawing 10+amps and themselves weighing 10 pounds are similarly free of EMC concerns. They are not potential victim or antagonist in the aircraft environment. You can route their wires with impunity. Spent a goodly portion of my career working with such devices on all manner of trim systems from Lears, Beechjets etc down to the T6 and Bonanzas. Not one of those systems required any special treatment for during runs through the EMI/EMC gauntlets during certification. The itty-bitty devices popular in our projects are no different. Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ In the interest of creative evolution of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and good practice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.