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7. 04:57 PM - Re: Plane Power alternator $$$$ (Coastflyer)
8. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: Plane Power alternator $$$$ (Sebastien)
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| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
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- 60! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics
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I do what someone else does.zip tie through the screw holes.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 17:43 Jeff Luckey <jluckey@pacbell.net> wrote:
> BobD - the ChocBlock is the right idea but is designed to a hold terminal
> block.
>
> Stuart - You suggested some 3D printing - I had the same thought as I was
> writing the original message...but I don't have a printer and I'd rather
> buy COTS than have to roll my own. (The hardest part of that would be the
> 3D CAD, since I don't do 3D CAD;)
>
>
> All others - valid suggestions, some of which I had considered.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
>
> -Jeff
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 12:58:13 PM PST, Sebastien <
> cluros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/appages/rescuetape.php?clickkey=9
168
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, 12:47 Jared Yates, <email@jaredyates.com> wrote:
>
> Or perhaps a wrap of self-fusing tape?
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 01:59 Stuart Hutchison <
> stuart@stuarthutchison.com.au> wrote:
>
> Seems like a good candidate for 3D printing Jeff.
>
> On 29 Nov 2023, at 5:02=AFpm, Jeff Luckey <jluckey@pacbell.net> wro
te:
>
> I'm looking for a snap-on thin plastic shell that would clamp over a mate
d
> pair of DB9 connectors ( 1 male plugged into a female). Not a backshell
> but something that is easy to clip on and would protect the other wires i
n
> the loom from the metal edges of the connectors. It does not have to
> provide strain relief for the wires going into the connectors.
>
> I've seen the plastic back shells that snap over each connector - I want
> something like that, but that clips over the mated pair.
>
> Anyone ever seen something like this? Not even sure how to Google for
> this...
>
>
> -Jeff
>
>
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I also recall something where you snip the tags off to make it smaller
and seal the whole thing with shrink tube
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Sent: November 30, 2023 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: DB9 Cover
I do what someone else does.zip tie through the screw holes.
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 17:43 Jeff Luckey <jluckey@pacbell.net
<mailto:jluckey@pacbell.net> > wrote:
BobD - the ChocBlock is the right idea but is designed to a hold
terminal block.
Stuart - You suggested some 3D printing - I had the same thought as I
was writing the original message...but I don't have a printer and I'd
rather buy COTS than have to roll my own. (The hardest part of that
would be the 3D CAD, since I don't do 3D CAD;)
All others - valid suggestions, some of which I had considered.
Thanks to all,
-Jeff
On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 12:58:13 PM PST, Sebastien
<cluros@gmail.com <mailto:cluros@gmail.com> > wrote:
https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/appages/rescuetape.php?clickkey=9
168
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, 12:47 Jared Yates, <email@jaredyates.com
<mailto:email@jaredyates.com> > wrote:
Or perhaps a wrap of self-fusing tape?
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 01:59 Stuart Hutchison
<stuart@stuarthutchison.com.au <mailto:stuart@stuarthutchison.com.au> >
wrote:
Seems like a good candidate for 3D printing Jeff.
On 29 Nov 2023, at 5:02=AFpm, Jeff Luckey <jluckey@pacbell.net
<mailto:jluckey@pacbell.net> > wrote:
I'm looking for a snap-on thin plastic shell that would clamp over a
mated pair of DB9 connectors ( 1 male plugged into a female). Not a
backshell but something that is easy to clip on and would protect the
other wires in the loom from the metal edges of the connectors. It does
not have to provide strain relief for the wires going into the
connectors.
I've seen the plastic back shells that snap over each connector - I want
something like that, but that clips over the mated pair.
Anyone ever seen something like this? Not even sure how to Google for
this...
-Jeff
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At 12:02 AM 11/29/2023, you wrote:
>I'm looking for a snap-on thin plastic shell that would clamp over a
>mated pair of DB9 connectors ( 1 male plugged into a female). Not a
>backshell but something that is easy to clip on and would protect
>the other wires in the loom from the metal edges of the
>connectors. It does not have to provide strain relief for the wires
>going into the connectors.
>
>I've seen the plastic back shells that snap over each connector - I
>want something like that, but that clips over the mated pair.
>
>Anyone ever seen something like this? Not even sure how to Google for this...
What conditions suggest a need for extra
enclosure? Have you considered any of the
contemporary automotive connectors?
A particularly promising line of products
is manufactured by Deutsch. I've posted
and excerpt of their catalog at
https://tinyurl.com/yoynwxtk
These connectors off a full range
of pins in both open barrel and
quad-crimp styles . . . even gold
plated! Amazon offers some of these
devices.
These connectors are scuba-dive/sand-
storm ready right out of the box.
Deutsch the only game in town either.
Bob . . .
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< show me where I'm wrong. >
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In the interest of creative evolution
of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based
on physics and good practice.
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> Amazon offers some of these
> devices.
https://tinyurl.com/Jready2
Bob . . .
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< show me where I'm wrong. >
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In the interest of creative evolution
of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based
on physics and good practice.
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Yes, Deutsch connectors are good stuff, but pricey. I still use Weatherpack
as they are available at reasonable prices for the real stuff. Much of the
=9CDeutsch=9D product sold on Amazon are Chinese knock-offs. I
f they price is much lower than places like Mouser and DigiKey, it is Chines
e junk.
Weatherpack are old technology and a fair bit bulkier than Deutsch, but they
are rugged and reliable and less expensive than Deutsch for places where si
ze isn=99t a paramount consideration and you don=99t need more t
han 6 pins. I look at Weatherpack as being like standard density dsub and D
eutsch being high density dsub equivalents.
Matt
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 30, 2023, at 5:16=AFPM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob
@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB At 12:02 AM 11/29/2023, you wrote:
>> I'm looking for a snap-on thin plastic shell that would clamp over a mate
d pair of DB9 connectors ( 1 male plugged into a female). Not a backshell b
ut something that is easy to clip on and would protect the other wires in th
e loom from the metal edges of the connectors. It does not have to provide s
train relief for the wires going into the connectors.
>>
>> I've seen the plastic back shells that snap over each connector - I want s
omething like that, but that clips over the mated pair.
>>
>> Anyone ever seen something like this? Not even sure how to Google for th
is...
>
> What conditions suggest a need for extra
> enclosure? Have you considered any of the
> contemporary automotive connectors?
>
> A particularly promising line of products
> is manufactured by Deutsch. I've posted
> and excerpt of their catalog at
>
> https://tinyurl.com/yoynwxtk
>
> These connectors off a full range
> of pins in both open barrel and
> quad-crimp styles . . . even gold
> plated! Amazon offers some of these
> devices.
>
> These connectors are scuba-dive/sand-
> storm ready right out of the box.
>
> Deutsch the only game in town either.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ////
> (o o)
> ===========o00o=(_)=o00o=======
=
> < Go ahead, make my day . . . >
> < show me where I'm wrong. >
> ========================
========
>
> In the interest of creative evolution
> of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based
> on physics and good practice.
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This appears to be a decent source (just placed my first order with them so c
an=99t be sure yet) for genuine Deutsch, Weatherpack and Metripack and
they sell single connector kits which are nice to ensure you get all of the
right parts. Ordering all parts a la carts can get confusing. https://www
.customconnectorkits.com/
I=99ve ordered my prior Weatherpack connectors and tools from https://
www.diyautotune.com/shop/wiring-components/weather-pack-kits/ and have had g
ood experience with them. Their main limitation is they only sell up to 20 A
WG contacts and I needed some 22-24 contacts for my Ray Allen trim wires. C
ustom Connector carries the smaller size Weatherpack contacts and kits.
Matt
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 30, 2023, at 5:24=AFPM, Matthew S. Whiting <m.whiting@frontie
r.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BBYes, Deutsch connectors are good stuff, but pricey. I still use W
eatherpack as they are available at reasonable prices for the real stuff. M
uch of the =9CDeutsch=9D product sold on Amazon are Chinese knoc
k-offs. If they price is much lower than places like Mouser and DigiKey, it
is Chinese junk.
>
> Weatherpack are old technology and a fair bit bulkier than Deutsch, but th
ey are rugged and reliable and less expensive than Deutsch for places where s
ize isn=99t a paramount consideration and you don=99t need more t
han 6 pins. I look at Weatherpack as being like standard density dsub and D
eutsch being high density dsub equivalents.
>
> Matt
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>> On Nov 30, 2023, at 5:16=AFPM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.b
ob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>>>
>> =EF=BB At 12:02 AM 11/29/2023, you wrote:
>>> I'm looking for a snap-on thin plastic shell that would clamp over a mat
ed pair of DB9 connectors ( 1 male plugged into a female). Not a backshell b
ut something that is easy to clip on and would protect the other wires in th
e loom from the metal edges of the connectors. It does not have to provide s
train relief for the wires going into the connectors.
>>>
>>> I've seen the plastic back shells that snap over each connector - I want
something like that, but that clips over the mated pair.
>>>
>>> Anyone ever seen something like this? Not even sure how to Google for t
his...
>>
>> What conditions suggest a need for extra
>> enclosure? Have you considered any of the
>> contemporary automotive connectors?
>>
>> A particularly promising line of products
>> is manufactured by Deutsch. I've posted
>> and excerpt of their catalog at
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yoynwxtk
>>
>> These connectors off a full range
>> of pins in both open barrel and
>> quad-crimp styles . . . even gold
>> plated! Amazon offers some of these
>> devices.
>>
>> These connectors are scuba-dive/sand-
>> storm ready right out of the box.
>>
>> Deutsch the only game in town either.
>>
>>
>> Bob . . .
>>
>> ////
>> (o o)
>> ===========o00o=(_)=o00o=======
=
>> < Go ahead, make my day . . . >
>> < show me where I'm wrong. >
>> ========================
========
>>
>> In the interest of creative evolution
>> of the-best-we-know-how-to-do based
>> on physics and good practice.
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power alternator $$$$ |
Thank you guys for the thoughtful and helpful replies!
The dynon is a D-180 which has all my flight instruments and engine indications
on one screen. I have to change pages to see the volts and amps, which I agree
is not a good thing but has worked ok until now
And no I didnt install a low voltage warning light on the panel. Shame on me. I
will do that now or figure out how to enable the audible alarm function in the
dynon.
I dont know at what voltage the dynon switches to internal battery. I couldnt find
that in the manual just now either. It does it on every power shutdown though
so Im used to seeing the prompt to press a key to continue on backup battery.
That message was intermittently popping up on the screen at the beginning
of the event and was my first indication something was wrong. But then the screen
just wet dark. Maybe intermittent low voltage triggered the 30 second timer
and since I didnt tell it to continue on backup it just shutoff?
Anyway. I feel like the dynon discussion is a bit of a sidetrack from the alternator
problem.
Bob, the amps indication is a vertical scale and it was pegged at the top, and
I believe it said 99 in red! Thats what made me shut off the alternator, thinking
there was a nuclear meltdown in progress.
I honestly dont know how long this situation was developing for. I had flown for
about an hour. I feel like the ship battery was pretty healthy. Its an odyssey
pc680 installed 5 years and 175 hours ago, and gives great engine cranking
after recently sitting unmaintained for a few months.
The high amps reading with very low voltage is what made me think internal short
in the alternator, and the fact that battery voltage recovered with the alternator
switched off. But it sounds like you think its a more benign failure.
Im willing to dig into the alternator if thats the consensus.
Ill reread all the replies and answer the questions more thoroughly, but dont have
time at the moment.
Thanks guys!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512715#512715
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| Subject: | Re: Plane Power alternator $$$$ |
Jesse, your D-180 records all the displayed parameters and more in an
internal file. There is likely an orange, yellow, and black wire going from
the back of your D-180 to a DB9 connector. If you connect a laptop running
the free Dynon software to that connector you can download the entire event
and then it will be a very simple exercise to look at the voltage and
amperage recorded during the entire flight up until the D-180 shutdown.
This will make diagnosis simple. In fact, it makes the diagnosis of many
engine problems simple and can also be used to detect failing exhaust
valves before they fail.
You're recording all this great diagnostic data, might as well save
yourself thousands of dollars by using it.
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:00=AFPM Coastflyer <jessejenks72@gmail.com>
wrote:
> jessejenks72@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you guys for the thoughtful and helpful replies!
> The dynon is a D-180 which has all my flight instruments and engine
> indications on one screen. I have to change pages to see the volts and
> amps, which I agree is not a good thing but has worked ok until now=F0=9F
=98=81
> And no I didn=99t install a low voltage warning light on the panel.
Shame on
> me. I will do that now or figure out how to enable the audible alarm
> function in the dynon.
> I don=99t know at what voltage the dynon switches to internal batte
ry. I
> couldn=99t find that in the manual just now either. It does it on e
very power
> shutdown though so I=99m used to seeing the prompt to press a key t
o continue
> on backup battery. That message was intermittently popping up on the scre
en
> at the beginning of the event and was my first indication something was
> wrong. But then the screen just wet dark. Maybe intermittent low voltage
> triggered the 30 second timer and since I didn=99t tell it to conti
nue on
> backup it just shutoff?
> Anyway. I feel like the dynon discussion is a bit of a sidetrack from the
> alternator problem.
> Bob, the amps indication is a vertical scale and it was pegged at the top
,
> and I believe it said 99 in red! That=99s what made me shut off the
> alternator, thinking there was a nuclear meltdown in progress.
> I honestly don=99t know how long this situation was developing for.
I had
> flown for about an hour. I feel like the ship battery was pretty healthy.
> It=99s an odyssey pc680 installed 5 years and 175 hours ago, and gi
ves great
> engine cranking after recently sitting unmaintained for a few months.
> The high amps reading with very low voltage is what made me think interna
l
> short in the alternator, and the fact that battery voltage recovered with
> the alternator switched off. But it sounds like you think it=99s a
more
> benign failure.
> I=99m willing to dig into the alternator if that=99s the cons
ensus.
> I=99ll reread all the replies and answer the questions more thoroug
hly, but
> don=99t have time at the moment.
> Thanks guys!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512715#512715
>
>
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