---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/05/23: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:44 AM - Re: 3 stage switching for lights (Chuck) 2. 07:07 AM - Re: 3 stage switching for lights (Werner Schneider) 3. 09:40 AM - Re: Filling All the Holes in a DB Connector (John M Tipton) 4. 12:56 PM - Fw: Activation of account, Matronics Email Lists Forums - "esco" (stuart anderson) 5. 01:14 PM - Re: 3 stage switching for lights (Werner Schneider) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:32 AM PST US From: "Chuck" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 3 stage switching for lights Hello Mike, I have found the following information very helpful in designing unusual toggle switch wiring configurations, which seems to be your case. Go to Bob's AeroElectric Connection book, Page EX11-2. Or, use this link on the B&C website: AeroElectric Connection - "Switch Ratings, What's It All Mean?": https://bandc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/aec_switch_ratings.pdf There are the pole diagrams for the different toggle switch configurations available through B&C. One of these might work for you. Good Luck, Chuck ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 3 stage switching for lights From: Werner Schneider Thanks Chuck, I did that beforehand, however it needs some bridging of some contacts to achieve what I need, Bob's link did provide that information. Cheers Werner On 05.12.2023 15:43, Chuck wrote: > > Hello Mike, > > I have found the following information very helpful in designing > unusual toggle switch wiring configurations, which seems to be your case .. > > Go to Bob's AeroElectric Connection book, Page EX11-2. > > Or, use this link on the B&C website:=C2- AeroElectric Connection - > "Switch Ratings, What's It All Mean?": > > https://bandc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/aec_switch_ratings.pdf > > There are the pole diagrams for the different toggle switch > configurations available through B&C. > > One of these might work for you. > > Good Luck, > > Chuck > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:44 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Filling All the Holes in a DB Connector From: "John M Tipton" With the price of those pins: forget it ~ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512759#512759 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:03 PM PST US From: stuart anderson Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Activation of account, Matronics Email Lists Forums - "esco" Team: request re-activation of my account- I'm working on the architecture for my RV-14A project. Thanks! ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: stuart anderson Subject: Re: Activation of account, Matronics Email Lists Forums - "esco" Mr. Dralle: following up on this. Ron Willis ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: stuart anderson Subject: Re: Activation of account, Matronics Email Lists Forums - "esco" Following up on AeroElectric List access request. Ron Willis -------------------- On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 7:19 AM stuart anderson < stuart.td.anderson@gmail.com> wrote: > Mr. Dralle: Is my account active? > I've not received a second email to indicate it was activated, and I've > tried to log in without success. > > Thank you. > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: > Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 9:00 PM > Subject: Welcome to Matronics Email Lists Forums > To: > > > Welcome to the Matronics Email Lists > > Please keep this email for your records. 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Cheers Werner On 04.12.2023 16:29, M Wilson wrote: > It looks like you need a DP3T switch.=C2- Do a search for them.=C2- It seems > that it is a 4PDT switch with a jumper. You can search for those also. > The selection seems to be limited.=C2- There are several with PC pins and > some expensive ones with screw terminals. > I've never used one.=C2- They have 12 terminals on the back of the > switch, but you don't need any diodes. > See the last page on the attached; it shows the jumper wiring. > > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 03:58:08 PM CST, Werner Schneider > wrote: > > > Thanks M, > > the circuit shown for the dimmer is not exactly the product used, the > Perhelion dimer has an integrated on-off switch. And the LED's are > strips with resistors for 12 V. > > The problem I see is, in the position where the rear led strip is on > full voltage via pin 2, the front is as well on the dimmer, that is > not what I want. so that position is not independent. I would like to > have 3 independent switch position. > > Cheers Werner > > On 02.12.2023 19:50, M Wilson wrote: > That looks like it should work. > I'd pull the feed for switch input pin2 from before the dimmer and use > one fuse. > I assume there are series resistors as part of the cabin LEDs to limit > current?=C2- If, not they are needed. > > The LM317 dimmer circuit will not go to a completely off state. > > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:37:32 AM CST, Werner Schneider > wrote: > > > Thanks Bob, > > The dimmer has the off functionality, so 3 position would work but > need to have 2 feeders, diodes would be against crossfeed here my > architecture, but the switch will not work this way > > > On 02.12.2023 17:32, Bob Kuc wrote: > I would think that you need a 4 position switch since off position > would be needed.=C2- I would just=C2- go with 2 switches, but if you want > only one then look at a 4 position rotary switch. > > 1 off > 2 front > 3 back > 4 both > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023, 10:37=AFAM Christopher Cee Stone > > wrote: > > image.png > Take at the functions. It appears to me this is what you want. > > Also > https://www.ebay.com/itm/293559818578?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1 &mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=293559818578&t argetid=1490630670660&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9032917&poi= &campaignid=19851828444&mkgroupid=145880009014&rlsatarget=pla-149063 0670660&abcId=9307249&merchantid=114784040&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyKurBhD5ARI sALamXaHdlww9Fe9Yu1ydQyAe6anUXRiGz4KA3n6oG3-clEaFpkyQR-CLpzUaAsIYEALw_wcB > > > ...chris > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 7:26=AFAM Werner Schneider > wrote: > > Thanks Christopher, > > but they do not work as they have not 3 independent position > > > it's always a set of 2 closed so eg. if you feed from 5 and 2 > you could do 5-4 up, 5-6 middle but then down you would have > 2-3 but 5-6 would be closed as well :( > > On 02.12.2023 16:00, Christopher Cee Stone wrote: >> Many from on-line vendors: >> https://www.amazon.com/GAMA-Electronics-Toggle-Switch-Position/ dp/B001PNMC16 >> >> >> https://www.steinair.com/product/toggle-switch-3-position-dpdt/ >> >> >> https://bandc.com/product/toggle-switch-double-pole/?attribute_ configuration=-10+ON-ON-ON >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:12=AFPM werner schneider >> > wrote: >> >> schneider" > >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I wonder if I could save on a 4th dimmer ;) Here what I >> want to achieve: >> >> Cabin lights (LED) 2 section, front and rear: >> >> -position 1, front lights on dimmer, rear lights off >> -position 2, front and rear lights on dimmer >> -position 3, front lights off, rear lights on 13.8V >> >> I did craft a scheme, but I'm not able to find a switch >> which offer that 3 stage functionality or maybe I'm just >> not good enough in wiring it for that functionality. >> >> Thanks for your help (due to space constrains the switch >> would need to use screw terminals in addition) >> >> Werner >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=512721#512721 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> - >> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroEl ectric-List >> >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> >> ========== >> b Site - >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin .. >> ="noreferrer" >> target="_blank">https://matronics.com/contribution >> >> ========== >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.