AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/29/24


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 09:35 AM - Re: Z18 LOM Installation Question (Eric Page)
     2. 09:12 PM - Re: Instrumentation amplifiers (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 09:25 PM - Re: Re: Z18 LOM Installation Question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:35:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Z18 LOM Installation Question
    From: "Eric Page" <edpav8r@yahoo.com>
    That MSD noise filter is almost certainly a Nippon ChemiCon U36D series capactor (like this one (https://www.digikey.com/short/52pftq70)) with a red shrink-wrap over it and the price wildly inflated. Here's the mounting bracket (https://www.digikey.com/short/b3mrf2h9). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513431#513431


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    Time: 09:12:36 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Instrumentation amplifiers
    At 07:44 PM 3/21/2024, you wrote: <finn.lassen@verizon.net> > >Trying to measure pressure in front of my >radiators to somehow get uniform airflow through entire rad surface. > >A few years ago I bought 5 MPX10DP 10kPa >(1.45psi) pressure sensors because they were relatively inexpensive. > >Been measuring 1" from each corner and center. >But have now added steering vanes in # pattern >-- in other words rad surface now divided into 9 squares. > >Throwing good money after bad I just ordered additional 4 MPX10DPs. > >Problem=C2 with the MPX10 sensors is they are not >amplified (nor temperature compensated). Only >outputs 35mV/10kPa. However outputs are offset >at about 2.5V when fed 5V. Basically wheatstone bridge. Last time I worked at those voltage levels was to instrument some strain guages in the pitch trim system of a Beechjet about 25 years ago. Chopper stabilized op-amps are handy for this task. The parts I used back then are long obsolete but Digikey has a selection of modern parts: https://tinyurl.com/23uwab99 Top one in the list seems a likely candidate. I've attached an exemplar circuit from one of the data sheets. The precision voltage supply is a bit arcane, my personal favorite is also attached. One supply can be used to power up the array of pressure transducers. You might read up on using these high gain systems for conditioning tiny voltages . . . ecb layouts need some attention for noise/leakage mitigation and compensation for local Seebeck effects. Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======= = < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ======================== ======== In the interest of creative evolution for the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and repeatable experiment.


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    Time: 09:16:56 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Which Oil Pressure Switch?
    At 10:32 AM 3/26/2024, you wrote: >I have a battery charger that senses vibration caused when the >engine is started, and uses that as a trigger. I wouldn't have any >idea how to procure or implement a vibration sensor as a trigger for >your Hobbs, but I'll bet some of the guys on this list do. What's the alternator in your system? PM dynamo perhaps? Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ In the interest of creative evolution for the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and repeatable experiment.


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    Time: 09:25:07 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Z18 LOM Installation Question
    At 11:34 AM 3/29/2024, you wrote: > >That MSD noise filter is almost certainly a Nippon ChemiCon U36D >series capactor (like this one >(https://www.digikey.com/short/52pftq70)) with a red shrink-wrap >over it and the price wildly inflated. > >Here's the mounting bracket (https://www.digikey.com/short/b3mrf2h9). I ran some tests many moons back to explore the benefits of fat capacitors on the output of any alternator but specifically the PM devices. Copies of exemplar plots are available at: http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Alternators/SD-8/SD8_Noise_Plots.pdf Bottom line is that I could detect no benefit for having this capacitor in the system. Noise levels on the alternator's output were quite nominal and of no operational significance whether or not the capacitor was included. Except for the mitigation of generator/alternator radio frequency noise in ADF radios, B-lead capacitors and/or 'purpose designed' filters haven't been needed for quite some time. Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o======== < Go ahead, make my day . . . > < show me where I'm wrong. > ================================ In the interest of creative evolution for the-best-we-know-how-to-do based on physics and repeatable experiment.




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