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| Subject: | Re: Deutsch, the big brother of Dsub |
I appreciate all the info and links you two have put in here. I've used
them before and like them too. The hard part is always digging up
all the info when I need it. so I'm saving your posts for future
reference. I know when I first ordered them it took a while to figure
out all the compatible parts i wanted.
Thanks again!
Tim
On 12/20/24 11:30 PM, Eric Page wrote:
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> The "Deutsch" connectors sold on eBay and Amazon are almost all Chinese knock-offs,
not genuine parts. There's no guarantee that they're made from the same
plastics, elastomers and metals as genuine Deutsch parts, or that they conform
to the identical dimensions or surface finishes, which are critical for the
seals to work properly.
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> If you want to use Deutsch connectors but don't like their high prices, look
for the Amphenol equivalents. All Amphenol parts are entirely interchangeable
with their Deutsch counterparts, they're made by a reputable manufacturer, distributed
through traceable supply chains, and they cost significantly less than
Deutsch. Here are links to the Amphenol product webpages:
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> Amphenol ATM (https://www.amphenol-sine.com/atm-series) = Deutsch DTM (7.5A per contact)
> Amphenol AT (https://www.amphenol-sine.com/at-series) = Deutsch DT (13A per contact)
> Amphenol ATP (https://www.amphenol-sine.com/atp-series) = Deutsch DTP (25A per contact)
> Amphenol ATHD (https://www.amphenol-sine.com/athd-power-connectors) = Deutsch DTHD (25, 60 or 100A per contact)
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> Look for the PDF documents at the bottom of each Amphenol product page for part
numbering charts.
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> Digi-Key (https://www.digikey.com/), Mouser (https://www.mouser.com/), Newark (https://www.newark.com/), Waytek Wire (https://www.waytekwire.com/catalog/connectors), WireCare (https://www.wirecare.com/manufacturers/amphenol), BuyDeutsch (https://www.buydeutsch.com/collections/amphenol) and many others carry these connectors.
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> I'll echo Werner's recommendation to use machined contacts, not stamped-and-formed, as it's much easier to get good results when crimping. For good quality, inexpensive crimp tooling, look for the tools made by Iwiss (often sold under the iCrimp brand). For ATM/DTM, get the IWD-20 (https://www.icrimptools.com/collections/heavy-duty-connector-crimping-tool/products/iwiss-closed-barrel-crimper-4-way-indents-8-impressions-for-deutsch-solid-contacts-gage-20-22iwd-20), for AT/DT, get the IWD-16 (https://www.icrimptools.com/collections/heavy-duty-connector-crimping-tool/products/iwiss-closed-barrel-crimper-4-way-indent-8-impression-type-for-deutsch-solid-contacts-gage-14-16-18iwd-16) and for ATP/DTP, get the IWD-12 (https://www.icrimptools.com/collections/heavy-duty-connector-crimping-tool/products/iwiss-closed-barrel-crimper-4-way-indent-8-impression-type-for-deutsch-solid-contacts-gage-12-iwd-12). All of these are usually available at good prices on Amazon and eBay. If you a!
> lready have a Size 20 crimper for standard-density machined D-Sub contacts,
give it a try on ATM/DTM before you buy another tool; it may work fine with a
small depth adjustment.
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> All you really need for contact removal tools are a small flat-blade screwdriver and a mini pick. If you want a specific tool, Amazon has one for $6 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZJ8Q7WD) that works for all connector sizes.
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> I have saved lists at Digi-Key containing all of the basic components for ATM,
AT and ATP series connectors in all available pin counts. See the links below:
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> ATM: https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/S9PGBP85ZQ (https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/S9PGBP85ZQ)
> AT: https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/XMKHB6MTG5 (https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/XMKHB6MTG5)
> ATP: https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/6UR6QPAV5H (https://www.digikey.com/en/mylists/list/6UR6QPAV5H)
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> I included all of the pins and sockets that Digi-Key carries; a few additional
part numbers are listed in the Amphenol chart but not in Digi-Key's catalog.
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> To build a connector pair you need the following parts:
> - plug housing + socket contacts
> - plug wedge lock
> - receptacle housing + pin contacts
> - receptacle wedge lock
> - sealing plug for every unused position in each housing
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| Subject: | Re: Deutsch, the big brother of Dsub |
Thanks Eric for great advice.
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Joe Gores
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