---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/07/25: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 PM - opinions on product sought (Ken Ryan) 2. 04:59 PM - Re: opinions on product sought (Eric Page) 3. 07:24 PM - Re: opinions on product sought (user9253) 4. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: opinions on product sought (Charles Kuss) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:04 PM PST US From: Ken Ryan Subject: AeroElectric-List: opinions on product sought I would be interested in opinions on this product being offered to aircraft builders: https://store.falkenavionics.com/products/falken-busbox-power-distribution-system Falken Busbox Power Distribution System Ken ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:07 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: opinions on product sought From: "Eric Page" It seems to be a solution looking for a problem. The market is already awash in tried-and-tested fuse blocks that hold anywhere from single to dozens of fuses, making it easy to build buses that don't all have to be mounted in a single location. Eaton/Bussmann or Blue Sea Systems make good quality fuse blocks that don't cost anywhere near $350. Waytek Wire has a good selection. The Falken BusBox appears to be little more than some fuse sockets and WAGO 2601-series terminal blocks on a circuit board, inside a 3D printed enclosure, with no "brains" (it's not a VP-X competitor). I really don't see $350 worth of value, let alone $450 ("Preorder before May 31st and save $100!"). How is it mounted in the aircraft? There don't appear to be any through-holes in, or mounting flanges on, the enclosure. There appears to be a two-terminal connector at the back, along with a relay and a single fuse that's not associated with the six front edge terminal blocks. What are those items for? It provides only a single input to power ALL thirty circuits connected to it. You would struggle to implement the dual-feed or redundancy aspects of Mr. Nuckolls' Z-figures using this device. I would pass. Eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515383#515383 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:31 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: opinions on product sought From: "user9253" Falken doesn't have any in stock. You will be loaning them money. It looks like all of the load wires come out of the bottom side which will take up more panel space. It is way too expensive. - The Bussmann fuse block that I purchased gripped the ends of fuses instead of the sides of fuses like a Sta-Kon terminal would. The fuses were not gripped tightly. I did not use it in my airplane. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515384#515384 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:27 PM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: opinions on product sought I agree with Joe, The method of attaching the wires is rather new and seem s a bit "iffy" to me. Shell looks flimsy and cheap. Way to expensive for wh at it is. I much prefer these. The box comes with a cover. It uses standard ATO fuses which can be purchased anywhere. The wires go in from the rear, so no unsightly blob of wires showing if you mount it in the cockpit. You c an also substitute self resetting circuit breakers for critical circuits, l ike electric fuel pumps or electronic ignitions. https://www.bluesea.com/products/5056/ST-Blade_Water-Resistant_Fuse_Block https://www.delcity.net/store/ATO:ATC-Blade!Style-Breakers/p_823685.h_46529 Summit Racing has 3 pages of better quality ATO fuse blocks, with wiring at taching both from the front or the rear. https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/fuse-blocks/fuse-style/ato-at c?page=1 Charlie On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 10:38:45 PM EDT, user9253 wrote: Falken doesn't have any in stock.=C2- You will be loaning them money. It looks like all of the load wires come out of the bottom side which will take up more panel space.=C2- It is way too expensive. - The Bussmann fuse block that I purchased gripped the ends of fuses instead of the sides of fuses like a Sta-Kon terminal would.=C2- The fuses=C2- were not gripped tightly.=C2- I did not use it in my airp lane. -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=515384#515384 - S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.