---------------------------------------------------------- Allegro-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/16/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:02 AM - Re: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop (Hugh) 2. 07:19 AM - Re: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop (TIM MOSES) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:43 AM PST US From: "Hugh" Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: Thank you for your reply, and your invitation to visit you and see the Allegro you are finishing up. I also am a retired engineer (Civil). I retired for Duke Power in 1993 after 30 years service and started a consulting business that same year with a young Civil Engineer. After 12 years in that business I turned it over to my partner and retired for the second time. I flew sailplanes for a sport many years ago and always wanted to continue flying, but work and family came first so I let my sailplane flying dwindle away. I did, and still hold a Private Rating in Sailplanes (which is considered a Light Sport Aircraft). I would like to fly down to see your Allegro. I would prefer to land at Monroe rather than your short field. I am properly equipped to enter Charlotte Class B air space, (i.e. radio, Transponder Mode C w/ alt encoder, etc.); however I would choose to stay under the floor of Charlotte's Class B airspace. What route would you suggest I take to come down to Monroe from Laney's? I am planning to fly over to Shelby on Saturday for a fly-in (if the weather holds), but would like to come down one day next week. Let me know what day would be best for you. Regards, Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I have flown to Laney's for the fly-in several times. My Allegro is not flying yet although I have had it up to 65 MPH on the runway. I have not changed the registration yet and have to have it inspected by the FAA for the category change. My airstrip is 3 miles Northwest of Monroe airport and is only 1275 feet long with some pretty tall obstructions on both ends. You can see a picture of it on my web site www.tm-designs-online.com . I am currently flying a Quicksilver GT-500 with an 80 HP Hirth F30 engine in it. If you want to fly into Monroe Airport, I can pick you up and give you the tour. If you think that your short field technique is good, you are welcome to try my field. I am retired and at home most of the time. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: I am located at Laney's Airport near Maiden, NC (N92). I did not know you were so close to my location. Are you flying your plane yet? If not maybe I could fly down and visit you some time. Since I built my Allegro 2000 it also is an E-LSA. Let me know. Hugh McKay -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I am located in Monroe, NC near the airport. The best I can tell, my Allegro was wrecked by a student pilot during a crosswind landing at Sanford Airport. After rebuilding the plane, I noticed that the aircraft only had about 2/3 of the required rudder travel due to the rudder cables being adjusted too tight. This might have contributed to the crash. I believe these cables are rigged there at Sanford. Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: I just received the prop tape sold by Powerfin and will be putting it on my Woodcomp prop this week. I will let you know how it performs. By the way, where are you located? Also, what were the circumstances surrounding the wrecking of the Allegro at Sanford? Hugh -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, My airplane is the one that was wrecked in Sanford in 2006. It has been rebuilt, but is re-registered as an E-LSA. The wings are still in primer, but so far everything is performing fine other than a plastic brake line that broke a couple of weeks ago. It looks like it hot too hot at the caliper and had a "blow-out". I wonder if this has happened to anyone else. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: Thanks for the info on Powerfin. I will contact them today. One the other matter, that does not surprise me at all. In fact I am surprised you received it at all!! How is you airplane performing? Hugh -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I replaced my tape with the tape used by the Powerfin propeller company. It is more durable than the factory tape and does not show signs of creeping. A note of interest that is off the subject...I ordered a flap eyebolt from Sanford on May 2nd 2008; I received it today. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hgmckay@bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop I am interested in further comments on protecting the leading edge of the WoodComp three blade prop. As stated before, the prop which is on my Allegro 2000 had what appeared to be black electrical tape on the leading edge. Over time the centrifugal force of the rotating prop has caused he tape to creep towards the tips of each blade to the point I have now removed the remaining tape. This tape was on the leading edge to offer some protection during operation. What has been the experience of others who have this prop and tape on their aircraft. I have gotten some information about using a 3M tape product, but would like to know what other alternatives may be available. I am also interested in what type adhesive would be required to keep any other type tape from creeping just as the original tape did. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 9:25 PM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:29 AM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:29 AM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:02 AM PST US From: "TIM MOSES" Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, You are welcome any day that the weather suits you, just let me know a little in advance. As to the route; I do not have a sectional in front of me right now, but right off hand I would suggest a route to the North of Charlotte staying under the Class B airspace. My address and phone number are listed below. I also worked for Duke Power (11 years) and am also a retired engineer, and did machine design up until 1982 when I retired due to health issues. Tim Moses 3115 Wesley Chapel Stouts Rd. Monroe, NC 28110 704-289-1645 -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: Thank you for your reply, and your invitation to visit you and see the Allegro you are finishing up. I also am a retired engineer (Civil). I retired for Duke Power in 1993 after 30 years service and started a consulting business that same year with a young Civil Engineer. After 12 years in that business I turned it over to my partner and retired for the second time. I flew sailplanes for a sport many years ago and always wanted to continue flying, but work and family came first so I let my sailplane flying dwindle away. I did, and still hold a Private Rating in Sailplanes (which is considered a Light Sport Aircraft). I would like to fly down to see your Allegro. I would prefer to land at Monroe rather than your short field. I am properly equipped to enter Charlotte Class B air space, (i.e. radio, Transponder Mode C w/ alt encoder, etc.); however I would choose to stay under the floor of Charlotte's Class B airspace. What route would you suggest I take to come down to Monroe from Laney's? I am planning to fly over to Shelby on Saturday for a fly-in (if the weather holds), but would like to come down one day next week. Let me know what day would be best for you. Regards, Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I have flown to Laney's for the fly-in several times. My Allegro is not flying yet although I have had it up to 65 MPH on the runway. I have not changed the registration yet and have to have it inspected by the FAA for the category change. My airstrip is 3 miles Northwest of Monroe airport and is only 1275 feet long with some pretty tall obstructions on both ends. You can see a picture of it on my web site www.tm-designs-online.com . I am currently flying a Quicksilver GT-500 with an 80 HP Hirth F30 engine in it. If you want to fly into Monroe Airport, I can pick you up and give you the tour. If you think that your short field technique is good, you are welcome to try my field. I am retired and at home most of the time. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: I am located at Laney's Airport near Maiden, NC (N92). I did not know you were so close to my location. Are you flying your plane yet? If not maybe I could fly down and visit you some time. Since I built my Allegro 2000 it also is an E-LSA. Let me know. Hugh McKay -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I am located in Monroe, NC near the airport. The best I can tell, my Allegro was wrecked by a student pilot during a crosswind landing at Sanford Airport. After rebuilding the plane, I noticed that the aircraft only had about 2/3 of the required rudder travel due to the rudder cables being adjusted too tight. This might have contributed to the crash. I believe these cables are rigged there at Sanford. Tim -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: I just received the prop tape sold by Powerfin and will be putting it on my Woodcomp prop this week. I will let you know how it performs. By the way, where are you located? Also, what were the circumstances surrounding the wrecking of the Allegro at Sanford? Hugh -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, My airplane is the one that was wrecked in Sanford in 2006. It has been rebuilt, but is re-registered as an E-LSA. The wings are still in primer, but so far everything is performing fine other than a plastic brake line that broke a couple of weeks ago. It looks like it hot too hot at the caliper and had a "blow-out". I wonder if this has happened to anyone else. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Tim: Thanks for the info on Powerfin. I will contact them today. One the other matter, that does not surprise me at all. In fact I am surprised you received it at all!! How is you airplane performing? Hugh -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TIM MOSES Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop Hugh, I replaced my tape with the tape used by the Powerfin propeller company. It is more durable than the factory tape and does not show signs of creeping. A note of interest that is off the subject...I ordered a flap eyebolt from Sanford on May 2nd 2008; I received it today. Tim Moses -----Original Message----- From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hgmckay@bellsouth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Allegro-List: Woodcomp Three Blade Prop I am interested in further comments on protecting the leading edge of the WoodComp three blade prop. As stated before, the prop which is on my Allegro 2000 had what appeared to be black electrical tape on the leading edge. Over time the centrifugal force of the rotating prop has caused he tape to creep towards the tips of each blade to the point I have now removed the remaining tape. This tape was on the leading edge to offer some protection during operation. What has been the experience of others who have this prop and tape on their aircraft. I have gotten some information about using a 3M tape product, but would like to know what other alternatives may be available. I am also interested in what type adhesive would be required to keep any other type tape from creeping just as the original tape did. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 9:25 PM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:29 AM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:29 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message allegro-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Allegro-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/allegro-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/allegro-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.