---------------------------------------------------------- Allegro-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/26/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:05 AM - Engine oil check door (ledson) 2. 12:41 PM - Re: Engine oil check door (Brian Carpenter) 3. 02:53 PM - Re: Engine oil check door (Hugh MCKAY III) 4. 06:26 PM - Oil door (and other things) (Brad Kramer) 5. 07:26 PM - Re: Oil door (and other things) (Hugh MCKAY III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:29 AM PST US Subject: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door From: "ledson" I'm considering the addition of an oil check door for my Allegro 2000. My question is, has anyone installed one on their aircraft, and if so do you have any information on the process that you can share? Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269520#269520 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:32 PM PST US From: Brian Carpenter Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door Uh Mine has one from the factory.... Brian n3081x 2006 Allegro 2000 --- On Mon, 10/26/09, ledson wrote: From: ledson Subject: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door I'm considering the addition of an oil check door for my Allegro 2000.- M y question is, has anyone installed one on their aircraft, and if so do you have any information on the process that you can share? Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269520#269520 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:34 PM PST US From: Hugh MCKAY III Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door Larry: - I have an oil level check "door" on my Allegro 2000. It is part of the top engine cowel, and it came with the airplane kit which I completed 2 years a go. I have over 300 hours on the Rotax 912 UL engine, and have never used t he door. It is a useless addition. Here is why. Each time you check the oil level in the oil reservoir you should also check the coolant level in the small expansion reservoir on top of the engine (this is not the overflow bo ttle). To check the coolant level you have to remove the top engine cowelin g. This allows you to also check the oil level. This also allows you to ins pect your engine as well. It only takes a minute to remove the top engine c owel. - I would not waste my time by adding such a door. - Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW --- On Mon, 10/26/09, ledson wrote: From: ledson Subject: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door I'm considering the addition of an oil check door for my Allegro 2000.- M y question is, has anyone installed one on their aircraft, and if so do you have any information on the process that you can share? Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269520#269520 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:38 PM PST US From: "Brad Kramer" Subject: Allegro-List: Oil door (and other things) I'd have to agree that the top cowling is so easy to remove that you are best off doing that and then are able to inspect other things firewall fo rward. On a few other items... - has anybody noticed that after you park the plane you get some overflow dripping on the ground from the coolant bottle? (this only seems to happ en when it is below about 50 degrees or so) Engine temps are fine, regard less of ambient temps. - I'd like to put a small hinged photo window in the pilot's door (maybe like a Cherokee window vent). I think there is a factory option for that. Has anybody tried this as a modification? If so I'd love to get pictures and advice. - I talked to the people from Sadler last spring and also visited the All egro/Vampire display at OSH 2009. I'm wondering if anyone has talked to t hem lately about getting back into production. ?? - I'm working in Houston this week. Any Allegro fliers nearby? - And a final question.... why is this Allegro list so QUIET??? This is m y 6th airplane and I've never met a group of owners who are so shy to tal k about their planes! (Usually they won't shut up)... I'd like to think i t is because Allegro's are so trouble-free and wonderful that we just kee p flying them, rather than talking or complaining about them. Brad Kramer Allegro 2000 - N221FA EAA 394357 Bismarck/Mandan ND (Y19) -----Original Message----- From: Hugh MCKAY III [mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 04:42 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door Larry: I have an oil level check "door" on my Allegro 2000. It is part of the to p engine cowel, and it came with the airplane kit which I completed 2 yea rs ago. I have over 300 hours on the Rotax 912 UL engine, and have never used the door. It is a useless addition. Here is why. Each time you check the oil level in the oil reservoir you should also check the coolant lev el in the small expansion reservoir on top of the engine (this is not the overflow bottle). To check the coolant level you have to remove the top engine coweling. This allows you to also check the oil level. This also a llows you to inspect your engine as well. It only takes a minute to remov e the top engine cowel. I would not waste my time by adding such a door. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:28 PM PST US From: Hugh MCKAY III Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Oil door (and other things) Brad: - I have not had any overflow from the coolant bottle except under the follow ing combined conditions: 1. Temps in the 85 to 95 degrees F 2. Plane sitting on hot asphalt runway with engine running for ten to 15 mi n. 3. Cylinder head temperature continuing to rise in the yellow range. - The above conditions have only occured in my case while having a prolonged delay in taking off from a paved airport in the hot summer months here in t he southeast, with a lot of take-off traffic in front of me. I can't explai n why you are having this problem at 50 degrees F! - In my case, I am having no problems with-my Allegro, so I have little to nothing to offer at this point concerning problems, questions, or issues. I 'm just flying, flying, flying........... - Hope you are doing the same! - Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW EAA 765611 Maiden, NC N92 --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Brad Kramer wrote: From: Brad Kramer Subject: Allegro-List: Oil door (and other things) I'd have to agree that the top cowling is so easy to remove that you are be st off-doing that and then are able to inspect other things firewall forw ard. - On a few-other items... - - has anybody noticed that after you park the plane you get some overflow d ripping on the ground from the coolant bottle?- (this only seems to happe n when it is below about 50 degrees or so)-- Engine temps are fine, reg ardless of ambient temps. - - I'd like to put a small hinged-photo window in the pilot's door (maybe like a Cherokee window vent).- I think there is a factory option for that .- Has anybody tried this as a modification?-- If so I'd love to get pictures and advice. - - I talked to the people from Sadler last spring-and also visited the-A llegro/Vampire display at OSH 2009.- I'm-wondering if anyone has talked to them lately about getting back into production.- ?? - - I'm working in Houston this week.- Any Allegro fliers nearby? - - And a final question.... why is this Allegro list so QUIET???- This is my 6th airplane and I've never met a group of owners who are-so shy to ta lk about their planes!--(Usually they won't shut up)...- -I'd like to think it is because Allegro's-are so trouble-free and wonderful that w e just keep-flying them, rather than talking or complaining about them. -- - Brad Kramer Allegro 2000 - N221FA EAA 394357 Bismarck/Mandan ND (Y19) - - -----Original Message----- From: Hugh MCKAY III [mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 04:42 PM Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Engine oil check door Larry: - I have an oil level check "door" on my Allegro 2000. It is part of the top engine cowel, and it came with the airplane kit which I completed 2 years a go. I have over 300 hours on the Rotax 912 UL engine, and have never used t he door. It is a useless addition. Here is why. Each time you check the oil level in the oil reservoir you should also check the coolant level in the small expansion reservoir on top of the engine (this is not the overflow bo ttle). To check the coolant level you have to remove the top engine cowelin g. This allows you to also check the oil level. This also allows you to ins pect your engine as well. It only takes a minute to remove the top engine c owel. - I would not waste my time by adding such a door. - Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL N661WW ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message allegro-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Allegro-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/allegro-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/allegro-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.