---------------------------------------------------------- Allegro-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/11/10: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:23 PM - Allegro, LLc (ledson) 2. 02:11 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (Hugh McKay) 3. 02:30 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (ledson) 4. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: Allegro, LLc (Hugh McKay) 5. 04:09 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (ledson) 6. 04:49 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (Jim Hazen) 7. 06:10 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (ledson) 8. 07:05 PM - Re: Allegro, LLc (Brad Kramer) 9. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Allegro, LLc (Jim Hazen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:21 PM PST US Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc From: "ledson" Last July we were told that Allegro was going to be manufactured in Oregon under the name of Allegro, LLc. I've checked the Internet and other than the announcements about Allegro now being manufactured in Roseburg, Oregon there is nothing. I can't even find an Allegro, LLc website. I've also looked in the FAA aircraft registration for any new Allegros and can't see that any have been registered. This leads me to believe that there may not be a company called Allegro LLc like we have been told. Does anyone our there have any insight into this? Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285997#285997 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:21 PM PST US From: "Hugh McKay" Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc Larry, I may be wrong, but I tend to agree with you. I own an Allegro 2000 and have over the past few months tried to get information concerning parts for the Allegro 2000 out of B bar D Aviation in Sandford, NC, as well as the Vampire Aircraft in Oregon where the supposedly new Allegro manufacturing plant is located. All my efforts have been fruitless. I get no response from B bar D Aviation (the worldwide distributer). In talking to the individual at Sadler Aircraft in Oregon I was informed the because of insufficient orders coming in for the Allegro, there is insufficient money available to get the new plant into operation. He was quite pessimistic. It appears that because of the poor economy and the high cost of these planes the new company (whoever that is) cannot get financing to re-birth the factory! Larry, where are you located? Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 N661WW Rotax 912 UL -------------------------------------------------- From: "ledson" Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc > > Last July we were told that Allegro was going to be manufactured in Oregon > under the name of Allegro, LLc. I've checked the Internet and other than > the announcements about Allegro now being manufactured in Roseburg, Oregon > there is nothing. I can't even find an Allegro, LLc website. I've also > looked in the FAA aircraft registration for any new Allegros and can't see > that any have been registered. This leads me to believe that there may > not be a company called Allegro LLc like we have been told. Does anyone > our there have any insight into this? > > Thanks, > > Larry > N4362C > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285997#285997 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:24 PM PST US Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc From: "ledson" I'm located in the Dayton Ohio area, I fly out of Greene County Airport (I19). I'm beginning to believe that we may be in trouble trying to get any manufacturing support for these aircraft. Allegro USA,LLC is going to have a very hard row to hoe if they are trying to start a business without a line of credit. If you don't make an investment in startup or as far as that goes don't invest in marketing your product, you're doomed to fail. And I believe that is what we're looking at. Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286019#286019 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:19 PM PST US From: "Hugh McKay" Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc I assume you fly an Allegro. Is it a SLA, or ELSA? Is it a 2000 model or a 2007 model? Hugh 661WW -------------------------------------------------- From: "ledson" Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc > > I'm located in the Dayton Ohio area, I fly out of Greene County Airport > (I19). I'm beginning to believe that we may be in trouble trying to get > any manufacturing support for these aircraft. Allegro USA,LLC is going to > have a very hard row to hoe if they are trying to start a business without > a line of credit. If you don't make an investment in startup or as far as > that goes don't invest in marketing your product, you're doomed to fail. > And I believe that is what we're looking at. > > Larry > N4362C > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286019#286019 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:25 PM PST US Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc From: "ledson" N4362C is an Allegro 2000 and is registered as an S-LSA. Larry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286041#286041 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:58 PM PST US From: Jim Hazen Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc A lineman at SDM ran into my Allegro and damaged my right wing and aileron. Doug at B bar D got me an aileron, wing tips and light covers. I just picked up my plane and everything is OK. In Socal there's a great Rotax & LSA guy at F70. There's an article in the March AOPA Flight Training mag about my trip around the 48 in my Allegro. -----Original Message----- From: ledson Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:21 Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc Last July we were told that Allegro was going to be manufactured in Oregon under the name of Allegro, LLc. I've checked the Internet and other than the announcements about Allegro now being manufactured in Roseburg, Oregon there is nothing. I can't even find an Allegro, LLc website. I've also looked in the FAA aircraft registration for any new Allegros and can't see that any have been registered. This leads me to believe that there may not be a company called Allegro LLc like we have been told. Does anyone our there have any insight into this? Thanks, Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285997#285997 [The entire original message is not included] ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:16 PM PST US Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc From: "ledson" Hi Jim! I just read the article you mentioned, good read! Glad to hear you got you airplane back in the air. Did the parts that Hempstead send you come from his stock at B Bar D or were they new parts from manufacturing in Oregon? I'm just trying to figure out if they have Allegro USA up and running. Larry N4362C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286055#286055 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:27 PM PST US From: "Brad Kramer" Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro, LLc Hi All... Since I purchased my Allegro almost two years ago I've stayed in touch wi th David Littlejohn at Sadler Aircraft. My understanding is that David an d a couple partners own the rights, parts and tooling for the Allegro. My last communication with David a few weeks ago indicated that they plan t o produce more planes, but not until economic conditions improve enough t o justify manufacturing. I haven't heard about financing issues there, but wouldn't be surprised.. . as a fellow small-business owner. That's always an issue. Personally I'm not losing sleep about us having an orphan plane... at lea st not any more than when I've owned some so-called classic planes that w ere no longer in production. Yes, I wish Allegro's were rolling off the a ssembly line again. But until then I still love our practical and fun-fly ing plane. As long as we have a reasonable availability of parts and the plane is insurable, I'll just keep flyin' and smilin'. Brad Kramer Allegro N221FA, EAA 394357 Bismarck ND ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:37 PM PST US From: Jim Hazen Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc Larry, The aileron came from Oregon. I don't know about the other parts. With the new altitude rule, I'm going to try and go to Leadville, CO (LXV) this spring. Jim -----Original Message----- From: ledson Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 18:07 Subject: Allegro-List: Re: Allegro, LLc Hi Jim! I just read the article you mentioned, good read! Glad to hear you got you airplane back in the air. Did the parts that Hempstead send you come from his stock at B Bar D or were they new parts from manufacturing in Oregon? I'm just trying to figure out if they have Allegro USA up and running. 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