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4. 11:37 AM - Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear (Doug Hempstead)
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Hugh,
Yes, we have seen this before. The gear legs are made up of two pieces.
The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking. This helps
prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the
gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop
strike as well. The split is usually a result of =9Chard=9D
landings. (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying
=9Cusually=9D). Again, the gear splits to also insure no
damage to the fuselage. The gear is purposely built to give before the
fuselage gives. This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very
expensive and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear
leg is in most cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be
flown (back to home base, or repair station.) Since you built your
Allegro from a kit, you know that changing out a gear leg is a
relatively simple process. If the Allegro is not leaning to the side
with the damaged gear leg, this usually means slight damage to the leg
and can still be flown, but should be monitored and hard landings
avoided.
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =93 office
252-586-1203 =93 fax
www.allegrolsa.com <http://www.allegrolsa.com>
doug@allegrolsa.com <mailto:doug@allegrolsa.com>
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[mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main
gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and
trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge
of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit=9D exactly
along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these
gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass=9D
that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid
=9Cfiberglass=9D? Could this =9Csplit=9Din the
tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear
leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has
anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what
caused it?
Hugh G. McKay III
Denver, NC 28037
Allegro 2000 E-LSA
N661WW
Rotax 912 UL
760 Hours TSN
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net <mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear |
Doug,
Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I
have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the
depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation
is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence
of a split on the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email
this airplane has almost 800 landings, most of which have been on
unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side.
It rests level. I am planning to clean up the split area, re-tape it,
and monitor it after each flight. What is your opinion of the severity
of this particular split?
If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new
right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay@bellsouth.net
giving me a price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly
replaceable with the wheel assembly without any modification?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
From: Doug Hempstead
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Hugh,
Yes, we have seen this before.=C2 The gear legs are made up of two
pieces.=C2 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C2
This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result
from the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a
possible prop strike as well.=C2 The split is usually a result of
=9Chard=9D landings.=C2 (This is NOT a reflection on the
pilot, as I am saying =9Cusually=9D).=C2 Again, the gear
splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C2 The gear is
purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C2 This prevents
damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair.
The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases, the damage
merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home base, or
repair station.)=C2 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, you know
that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C2 =C2 If
the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear leg, this
usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, but
should be monitored and hard landings avoided.
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =93 office
252-586-1203 =93 fax
www.allegrolsa.com
doug@allegrolsa.com
From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main
gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and
trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge
of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit=9D exactly
along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these
gear legs each made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass=9D
that have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid
=9Cfiberglass=9D? Could this =9Csplit=9Din the
tape indicate that I am developing a structural failure of the main gear
leg, or is it just a result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has
anyone seen this before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what
caused it?
Hugh G. McKay III
Denver, NC 28037
Allegro 2000 E-LSA
N661WW
Rotax 912 UL
760 Hours TSN
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear |
Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any a
dvancement of the separation harder to visually detect.
Best of luck.
Brad Kramer
Allegro 2000 N221FA
Bismarck / Mandan ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Doug,
Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have
checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of
the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around
2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split o
n the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane h
as almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways.
There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am pla
nning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each f
light. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split?
If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right
gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay@bellsouth.net giving me a
price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable
with the wheel assembly without any modification?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
From:Doug Hempstead
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM
To:allegro-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Hugh,
Yes, we have seen this before.=C2 The gear legs are made up of two pieces
.=C2 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C2 This help
s prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result from the ge
ar leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possible prop st
rike as well.=C2 The split is usually a result of =9Chard? la
ndings.=C2 (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying =9C
usually?).=C2 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to th
e fuselage.=C2 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gi
ves.=C2 This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive
and timely to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in mo
st cases, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back t
o home base, or repair station.)=C2 Since you built your Allegro from a k
it, you know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.
=C2 =C2 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear l
eg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, b
ut should be monitored and hard landings avoided.
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =93 office
252-586-1203 =93 fax
www.allegrolsa.com
doug@allegrolsa.com
From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main ge
ar legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailin
g edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my r
ight gear leg has a 5 inch long =9Csplit? exactly along the c
enter of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each
made up of two pieces of =9Cfiberglass? that have been lamin
ated together, or are they one piece of solid =9Cfiberglass??
Could this =9Csplit?in the tape indicate that I am developin
g a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a result of th
e flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before in the main
gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it?
Hugh G. McKay III
Denver, NC 28037
Allegro 2000 E-LSA
N661WW
Rotax 912 UL
760 Hours TSN
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | Allegro 2000 Main Gear |
Brad,
Good question. The tape is not necessary, but it adds to the cosmetics
of the aircraft and CAN be an added benefit of seeing more damage early,
as the tape will give and split when there is stress opening the gear
leg. This may be easier to detect over just a visual inspection unless
you have marked the gear with something that does not wear off. Either
way it OK, I just find the tape easier to detect additional stress.
Please note, the tape used is a vinyl tape, not electrical tape as it is
too thick. Also a quick =9Ccongratulations=9D to you. As
I am sure you know, you have the very first SLSA Allegro to come to the
USA.
Thanks,
Doug
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =93 office
252-586-1203 =93 fax
<http://www.allegrolsa.com> www.allegrolsa.com
<mailto:doug@allegrolsa.com> doug@allegrolsa.com
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[mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
brad@vision-technology.com
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any
advancement of the separation harder to visually detect.
Best of luck.
Brad Kramer
Allegro 2000 N221FA
Bismarck / Mandan ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Doug,
Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I
have checked the split more carefully today and have found that the
depth of the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation
is around 2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence
of a split on the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email
this airplane has almost 800 landings, most of which have been on
unpaved turf runways. There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side.
It rests level. I am planning to clean up the split area, re-tape it,
and monitor it after each flight. What is your opinion of the severity
of this particular split?
If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new
right gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay@bellsouth.net
<mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net> giving me a price for a new right gear
leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable with the wheel assembly
without any modification?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net <mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
http://www.wwegeo.com
From: Doug Hempstead <mailto:doug@allegrolsa.com>
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Hugh,
Yes, we have seen this before.=C3=82 The gear legs are made up of two
pieces.=C3=82 The gear leg is designed to split rather than
breaking.=C3=82 This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft
which would result from the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit
the ground and a possible prop strike as well.=C3=82 The split is
usually a result of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93hard=C3=A2=82=AC?
landings.=C3=82 (This is NOT a reflection on the pilot, as I am saying
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93usually=C3=A2=82=AC?).=C3=82 Again, the gear
splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C3=82 The gear is
purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C3=82 This prevents
damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and timely to repair.
The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases, the damage
merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home base, or
repair station.)=C3=82 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, you
know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C3=82
=C3=82 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear
leg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown,
but should be monitored and hard landings avoided.
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C office
252-586-1203 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C fax
www.allegrolsa.com <http://www.allegrolsa.com>
doug@allegrolsa.com <mailto:doug@allegrolsa.com>
From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main
gear legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and
trailing edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge
of my right gear leg has a 5 inch long
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC? exactly along the center of
the leg thickness. My question is this. Are these gear legs each made up
of two pieces of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC? that
have been laminated together, or are they one piece of solid
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC?? Could this
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC?in the tape indicate that I am
developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a
result of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this
before in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it?
Hugh G. McKay III
Denver, NC 28037
Allegro 2000 E-LSA
N661WW
Rotax 912 UL
760 Hours TSN
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net <mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Allegro 2000 Main Gear |
Yep, we're still flying #1... N221FA. It has about 940 hours on it, so fa
r. It is my 6th airplane and the only one I've kept for more than 3 years
, which says something about the plane. I had hoped to bring it to OSH th
is year, but my work schedule dictates that I'm going commercial instead,
rather than risking any weather delays for the 700 mile trip home. (it o
nce took me 3 days in a Hatz biplane)
...Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Hempstead [mailto:doug@allegrolsa.com]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 01:35 PM
Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Brad,
Good question. The tape is not necessary, but it adds to the cosmetics of
the aircraft and CAN be an added benefit of seeing more damage early, as
the tape will give and split when there is stress opening the gear leg.
This may be easier to detect over just a visual inspection unless you hav
e marked the gear with something that does not wear off. Either way it OK
, I just find the tape easier to detect additional stress. Please note, t
he tape used is a vinyl tape, not electrical tape as it is too thick. Als
o a quick =9Ccongratulations=9D to you. As I am sure you know
, you have the very first SLSA Allegro to come to the USA.
Thanks,
Doug
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =93 office
252-586-1203 =93 fax
www.allegrolsa.com
doug@allegrolsa.com
From: owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brad@vision-technology.com
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Is that tape necessary? I'm just wondering if retaping it will make any a
dvancement of the separation harder to visually detect.
Best of luck.
Brad Kramer
Allegro 2000 N221FA
Bismarck / Mandan ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh McKay [mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:22 AM
To:allegro-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
<<<<<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Allegro-List<<http://forums.matro
nics.com<<<<http://www.matronics.com/contribution<Doug,
Thanks for the explanation. All of what you said makes good sense. I have
checked the split more carefully today and have found that the depth of
the split is approx.. 1.0 mm, but the surface width separation is around
2.0 mm (just enough to split the tape). There is no evidence of a split o
n the trailing edge of the gear leg. As noted in my email this airplane h
as almost 800 landings, most of which have been on unpaved turf runways.
There is no leaning of the aircraft to the side. It rests level. I am pla
nning to clean up the split area, re-tape it, and monitor it after each f
light. What is your opinion of the severity of this particular split?
If it quickly progresses in length, I will be calling you for a new right
gear leg. Send me an email directly to hgmckay@bellsouth.net giving me a
price for a new right gear leg. Is the new gear leg exactly replaceable
with the wheel assembly without any modification?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com/
From:Doug Hempstead
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:50 AM
To:allegro-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
Hugh,
Yes, we have seen this before.=C3=82 The gear legs are made up of two pie
ces.=C3=82 The gear leg is designed to split rather than breaking.=C3=82
This helps prevent much more damage to the aircraft which would result fr
om the gear leg breaking and having the wing hit the ground and a possibl
e prop strike as well.=C3=82 The split is usually a result of =C3=A2=82
=AC=C5=93hard=C3=A2=82=AC? landings.=C3=82 (This is NOT a reflection o
n the pilot, as I am saying =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93usually=C3=A2=82=AC?)
.=C3=82 Again, the gear splits to also insure no damage to the fuselage.=C3
=82 The gear is purposely built to give before the fuselage gives.=C3=82
This prevents damage to the fuselage which can be very expensive and time
ly to repair. The other result of the splitting gear leg is in most cases
, the damage merely splits the leg and can still be flown (back to home b
ase, or repair station.)=C3=82 Since you built your Allegro from a kit, y
ou know that changing out a gear leg is a relatively simple process.=C3=82
=C3=82 If the Allegro is not leaning to the side with the damaged gear l
eg, this usually means slight damage to the leg and can still be flown, b
ut should be monitored and hard landings avoided.
Douglas Hempstead
LSA America, Inc.
231 US Hwy 158 East
Littleton, NC 27850
252-586-1200 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C office
252-586-1203 =C3=A2=82=AC=9C fax
http://www.allegrolsa.com/
doug@allegrolsa.com
From:owner-allegro-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-allegro-list-s
erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh McKay
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:31 PM
To:allegro-list@matronics.com
Subject: Allegro-List: Allegro 2000 Main Gear
I have an Allegro 2000 E-LSA with 750 take offs and landings. The main ge
ar legs have a vertical strip of white tape along the leading and trailin
g edges of both right and left legs. The tape on the leading edge of my r
ight gear leg has a 5 inch long =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC
? exactly along the center of the leg thickness. My question is this. Are
these gear legs each made up of two pieces of =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiber
glass=C3=A2=82=AC? that have been laminated together, or are they one
piece of solid =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93fiberglass=C3=A2=82=AC?? Could thi
s =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93split=C3=A2=82=AC?in the tape indicate that I a
m developing a structural failure of the main gear leg, or is it just a r
esult of the flexing of the gear on landing? Has anyone seen this before
in the main gear legs? If so, do you know what caused it?
Hugh G. McKay III
Denver, NC 28037
Allegro 2000 E-LSA
N661WW
Rotax 912 UL
760 Hours TSN
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
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