---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/18/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:32 AM - SL-60 Data Update Question (Tom Massey) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: SL-60 Data Update Question (Brian Lloyd) 3. 09:32 AM - Re: SL-60 Data Update Question (TeamGrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:38 AM PST US From: "Tom Massey" Subject: Avionics-List: SL-60 Data Update Question --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Tom Massey" I have just bought a new IIMorrow/Apollo/Garmin SL-60 out of a display case, and will need to update the database at some point. During the install, my avionics shop installed a dataloader cable so that I could update from a laptop at the aircraft. Calls to Garmin AT tech support for the update software manager resulted in being told that the SL-60 must be removed from the airplane, put in simulator mode, and fed through a Garmin-supplied data and power cable for it to accept the update. The Operator's manual doesn't say anything about this, and I am getting told by an owner through another forum that these things can be loaded just fine while installed in the airplane. Simply looking for a definitive answer and guidance. Tom Massey 704.814.7761 tmassey22@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:54 AM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: Avionics-List: SL-60 Data Update Question --> Avionics-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd On Nov 18, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Tom Massey wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Tom Massey" > > > I have just bought a new IIMorrow/Apollo/Garmin SL-60 out of a display > case, and will need to update the database at some point. During the > install, my avionics shop installed a dataloader cable so that I could > update from a laptop at the aircraft. Calls to Garmin AT tech support > for the update software manager resulted in being told that the SL-60 > must be removed from the airplane, put in simulator mode, and fed > through a Garmin-supplied data and power cable for it to accept the > update. The Operator's manual doesn't say anything about this, and I > am getting told by an owner through another forum that these things > can be loaded just fine while installed in the airplane. Simply > looking for a definitive answer and guidance. As an owner of three SL-60s in three different aircraft over time, I think I can comment. Garmin AT told you almost right. It depends on how the connector in the aircraft is wired. The SL-60 is placed into simulator mode by a jumper between two pins on one of the connectors. (I believe you just ground the "simulator" pin actually but I don't have the manual in front of me.) This jumper is present in the cable they supply for updating the database. If you want to make it possible to update the database in the SL-60 while it is in the aircraft you will need to add a switch or figure another way to connect the pins in order to place the radio in simulator mode. I brought the pins out to unused pins on a DB-9 connector and wired up a special database update cable. When I plugged in that cable it placed the radio in simulator mode so I could update the database. I would not install a switch as it might get thrown in flight. Making it part of the cable makes more sense from a safety-of-flight point of view. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:18 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@aol.com Subject: Re: Avionics-List: SL-60 Data Update Question --> Avionics-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com I bought an SL-60 on eBay 4 months ago. The data base was from 1996. I ordered the cables and software from Garmin and did the install on the bench. It doesn't take long to remove the unit. I did have a hell-of-a-time getting the software to load. It would load for about halfway through and then quit. It took three tries. By-the-way, The SL-60 is hooked up to an MX20.. I also have a Garmin 430 in my panel. They each have features I like. If the 430 would pick more than 9 nearest airports/vors, I would like it more.