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1. 06:01 AM - Re: GX60 display (Brian Lloyd)
2. 10:52 AM - Re: GX60 display (Fred Fillinger)
3. 11:47 AM - Re: GX60 display (Paul McAllister)
4. 01:40 PM - Re: GX60 display (David Lloyd)
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| Subject: | Re: GX60 display |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
On Jan 17, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I powered up my UPS GX60 today and to my dismay I found a glob of 5 or
> 6 pixels dead. They sit right over the airport identifier so I will
> have to deal with it soon. When I looked closely I also noticed the
> pixels in each corner duller than the rest of the display.
>
> I'd like to understand the life and failure mode of these displays
> because it has spent 4 years in storage so it hasn't been used much.
> I assume that the only source of a replacement part will be Garman,
> but if anyone one has ideas on alternatives I'd appreciate it.
The displays are little LED arrays. I would not be surprised if they
just plugged in. If you could open the case you might find you could
reseat the display in its socket and solve the problem.
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
+1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
Antoine de Saint-Exupry
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| Subject: | Re: GX60 display |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> ...
> I'd like to understand the life and failure mode of these displays
because it has spent 4 years in storage so it hasn't been used much.
I assume that the only source of a replacement part will be Garman,
but if anyone one has ideas on alternatives I'd appreciate it.
>
> Paul
Paul, I've had excellent service experience with both companies. My
GX-65 failed its display totally, and when they were UPS, they
promptly resoldered the display board with apologies for the
inconvenience. My experience with Garmin has been with a hand-held
aviation GPS which was clearly out-of-warranty, but the fault was
oddball, and they fixed it for free.
It's possible soldering or integrity of a plug-in display socket is
the problem, but as a big matrix, it doesn't sound hopeful if only a
small glob of pixels. With some luck, at least they may not price the
display part the exorbitant way Narco does!
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: GX60 display |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi Brian,
I am pretty sure that its a 160 x 80 pixel electroluminescent display .
When I look really closely at the dead area I can see some kind of internal
delaminating. My first thought was that it had been knocked physically, but
there is no evidence on the outside of the display.
I don't actually know how electroluminescent displays work, I thought it was
some kind of gas discharge device, do you know ?
Garmin have a $400.00 fixed service fee, it sure would be nice if I could
just locate the part.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GX60 display
> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>
> On Jan 17, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
>
> > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> > <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I powered up my UPS GX60 today and to my dismay I found a glob of 5 or
> > 6 pixels dead. They sit right over the airport identifier so I will
> > have to deal with it soon. When I looked closely I also noticed the
> > pixels in each corner duller than the rest of the display.
> >
> > I'd like to understand the life and failure mode of these displays
> > because it has spent 4 years in storage so it hasn't been used much.
> > I assume that the only source of a replacement part will be Garman,
> > but if anyone one has ideas on alternatives I'd appreciate it.
>
> The displays are little LED arrays. I would not be surprised if they
> just plugged in. If you could open the case you might find you could
> reseat the display in its socket and solve the problem.
>
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
> +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
>
> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
> Antoine de Saint-Exupry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GX60 display |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "David Lloyd" <skywagon@charter.net>
Paul,
I suggest that you call them and get a "technical type" customer service
person on the phone. Describe the problem and maybe get them to agree that
they need to see it and review it as a possible design/material flaw. Once
he gives you some mailing and RMA info, it will probably sail through the
repair system without cost to you other than shipping. I have had several
incidents like this with my Garmin 430 and I have never been charged for
their work to fix the necessary problems when I started the process through
a technical service or field engineering type.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GX60 display
> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> I am pretty sure that its a 160 x 80 pixel electroluminescent display .
> When I look really closely at the dead area I can see some kind of
> internal
> delaminating. My first thought was that it had been knocked physically,
> but
> there is no evidence on the outside of the display.
>
> I don't actually know how electroluminescent displays work, I thought it
> was
> some kind of gas discharge device, do you know ?
>
> Garmin have a $400.00 fixed service fee, it sure would be nice if I could
> just locate the part.
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Lloyd" <brianl@lloyd.com>
> To: <avionics-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GX60 display
>
>
>> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
>>
>> > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
>> > <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I powered up my UPS GX60 today and to my dismay I found a glob of 5 or
>> > 6 pixels dead. They sit right over the airport identifier so I will
>> > have to deal with it soon. When I looked closely I also noticed the
>> > pixels in each corner duller than the rest of the display.
>> >
>> > I'd like to understand the life and failure mode of these displays
>> > because it has spent 4 years in storage so it hasn't been used much.
>> > I assume that the only source of a replacement part will be Garman,
>> > but if anyone one has ideas on alternatives I'd appreciate it.
>>
>> The displays are little LED arrays. I would not be surprised if they
>> just plugged in. If you could open the case you might find you could
>> reseat the display in its socket and solve the problem.
>>
>> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
>> brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201
>> +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802
>>
>> I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
>> Antoine de Saint-Exupry
>>
>>
>
>
>
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