---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/16/05: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Highlight Two (Matt Dralle) 2. 10:28 AM - Re: Dynon vs. GRT (David Henderson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:54 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Avionics-List: Highlight Two --> Avionics-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List Forums at Matronics. There is no commercial advertising on any of the Lists to support their operation, and it is solely YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS that keeps these Lists up and running. 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To receive your copy, visit the List Contribution Web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution * This gift is provided by Andy Gold of The Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:51 AM PST US From: "David Henderson" Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Dynon vs. GRT --> Avionics-List message posted by: "David Henderson" The Chelton is my goal but finances dictate I can not at this time. Right now I plan on a D100, Garmin 396, SL30 with 106A for the CDI, 327 transponder and the backup altimeter, artificial horizon and air speed. Once I can afford the Chelton for all the goodies it has (and for WAAS future stuff) I will move the D100 over for the passenger to look at and keep the 396 in my case for a portable backup. That's the plan - Lord willing. Dave N925LW RV-7 -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Dynon vs. GRT --> Avionics-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Hmm, Chilton eh? Don't they make farm equipment. I hear the Chelton stuff is pretty good though. :-) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Dynon vs. GRT --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" Al, To start with I need more information about your mission. Also, I need more information on what type of backup to your primary EFIS you will be using. I have used almost every type of EFIS system that has been out for at least a year. Some briefly and some I have flown behind. I have flown the high end stuff form the Gulfstream G-IV and Airbus 320, to the Dynon 10. Briefly the Dynon 10A is a stand alone EFIS system that contains and air data computer, display, encoder, and backup power system. Externally to the system is a compass magnetometer with temperature input and engine instrumentation. The up side is this unit is small and easy to install and gives you the backup power function internally. The Cons to me is the fact that the Dynon EFIS does not know where it is in space so you don't get some of the full air data functions found on other EFIS systems. Such as GS wind speed and direction, and flight management interconnect. But for the price the Dynon is a good unit for VFR or IFR with a full setup of backup instruments. I have had a Dynon installed in an airplane I owned and have one in a friends Lancair that I fly. I would not fly IFR behind a the Dynon on as an only source system. (meaning having a T&B as a backup would not be enough.) The GRT system is based on the support by GRT to Chilton for air data computers and such that they build for them. GRT has come on the scene using their expertise in this field and produced a product in my option that is a lower cost Chilton EFIS system with limited function but similar in some functions. My flight experience is limited with GRT but they do have a bunch of long term experience in the aircraft avionics world and their unit has much more function then the Dynon EFIS. Some of the functions you get with the GRT that you don't get with the Dynon is Moving Map function, Full air data function (wind, GS, Ground Track, ect.), Flight management (flight planning), flight direction (both raw data GS, LOC, VOR, and synthetic navigation). In short the GRT has many more functions then the Dynon will ever have and is much more comparable to the Chilton Sport EFIS system ( see: direct2avionics.com ). Other systems to look at that are in between the Dynon and the GRT would be the Blue Mountain Avionics stuff. I have worked with some of their units but have yet to fly behind one. I just purchased their EFIS G3 Lite as a backup to a Chilton system and I will be testing it over the next three months. I will be able to give you a comprehensive report in January if you haven't purchased yet. My direct email is mlas@cox.net Mike Larkin Lancair Legacy TS-11 Iskra Kitfox IV Airbus 320 -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Dynon vs. GRT --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" The Dynon is really easy from my experience. I had never done any wiring before and I was able to wire it in and set it up. The wiring harness is a must, in my opinion. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herron, Al Subject: Avionics-List: Dynon vs. GRT --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Herron, Al" I'm trying to decide which whiz-box EFIS to put in my RV, Dynon vs. Grand Rapids Technologies. I'm leaning toward the GRT unit but have heard from one individual who said that the set-up process was pretty cumbersome. Anybody out there that can shed some real-world light on what it's like to set up either one of these things? Al Herron RV-7A Im trying to decide which whiz-box EFIS to put in my RV, Dynon vs. Grand Rapids Technologies. Im leaning toward the GRT unit but have heard from one individual who said that the set-up process was pretty cumbersome. Anybody out there that can shed some real-world light on what its like to set up either one of these things? Al Herron RV-7A -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. 11/11/2005 -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. 11/11/2005