---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/01/05: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:40 PM - cell phone adapter (gary.stiffler@kroger.com 12/01/2005 17) 2. 02:41 PM - Aviation wire (Brinker) 3. 06:50 PM - Re: Aviation wire (Richard E. Tasker) 4. 11:34 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:53 PM PST US Subject: Avionics-List: cell phone adapter From: "gary.stiffler@kroger.com 12/01/2005 17":36:55@roxy.matronics.com, Serialize complete at 12/01/2005 17:36:55@roxy.matronics.com --> Avionics-List message posted by: gary.stiffler@kroger.com 12/01/2005 17:36:55, Serialize complete at 12/01/2005 17:36:55 Does anyone know of an inexpensive cell phone adapter that I can put in line with my David Clark head set? Or a plan to build one? Thanks: Gary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:16 PM PST US From: "Brinker" Subject: Avionics-List: Aviation wire --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Brinker" Is it nessessary for a homebuilt to use aviation grade wire (m27500 or 22759/16 etc.) Or I should reword this and ask if it is advised to use it ? I have called my local electrical supply and can get shielded wire a lot cheaper, have'nt looked at it but salesman told me it was riser type. Is the FAA just overly anal about the mil spec in certified planes ? Randy ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:51 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Aviation wire --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" I don't know if there are any specific FAA regulations about the wire. I believe in a homebuilt you can do virtually anything you want and can probably get it approved. On the other hand, how much are you really going to save? The tefzel wire in my RV9A will probably still be in good shape long after I am gone. It cost a few bucks more than commercial wire, but it is far superior in its qualities. All the aircraft wire I have bought is 19 strand - much more flexible and resistant to damage from flexing than commercial wire which is typically seven strand. The tefzel insulation and/or jacket is far superior to most commercial insulations - much better temperature ratings, impervious to soldering temperatures and very abrasion resistant. Considering how much money I have in my RV9A, the extra $50-100 or so in wire costs was well worth it for my peace of mind. Also, if you ever decide you want or need to sell the plane it will be much more sales-worthy with regulation wire. Dick Tasker Brinker wrote: >--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Brinker" > > Is it nessessary for a homebuilt to use aviation grade wire (m27500 or >22759/16 etc.) Or I should reword this and ask if it is advised to use it ? >I have called my local electrical supply and can get shielded wire a lot >cheaper, have'nt looked at it but salesman told me it was riser type. Is the >FAA just overly anal about the mil spec in certified planes ? > >Randy > > -- Please Note: No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede, however, that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily inconvenienced. -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:36 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com Subject: Avionics-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Avionics-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Avionics-List Usage Guidelines below. 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