Avionics-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/26/06


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:35 AM - GPS antennas ()
     2. 08:14 AM - Re: TIS Connect Select (Mike)
     3. 10:50 AM - Re: TIS Connect Select (Tim Olson)
     4. 08:31 PM - Re: GPS antennas (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:35:20 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Cc: <avionics-list@matronics.com>, <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: GPS antennas
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> Responding to an AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> 1/26/2006 Hello Dick, My Garmin GNS 430 came with an antenna and installation instructions for the antenna that called for a large metal ground plane under the antenna. I called the Garmin tech people and protested. The technician said there was no real need for such a ground plane, but suggested that if I was going to put the antenna under a fiberglass upper cowling area near the engine that I mount it on a small metal shelf to help screen the antenna from electromagnetic junk that might be radiated from below. This I did, ensuring that the antenna had a view clear of any metal obstruction in the entire upper hemisphere. It has worked great. OC <<I know many folks have mounted their GPS antennas under fiberglass components like cowls. Most have reported no problem with reception. Has anyone with this configuration had a problem they could identify? Any reasons not to go this route? Any other considerations other than insuring unrestricted view of the sky and no metallic materials in the fiberglass.? Thanks Dick Sipp>>


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    Time: 08:14:41 AM PST US
    From: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
    Subject: TIS Connect Select
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net> I called Garmin and was told to leave the TIS line open. The Garmin 330 defaults to TIS on at power up and does not need that line to work with the Chelton. You can put a momentary switch on that line and use it to turn TIS on and off. I assume that you are using the DAC GDC34 ARINC 429 to RS232 converter? Which other line did you run from your 330? I have assumed that you only have to run one 429 channel (1 shielded twisted pair) from the Garmin 330 to the converter. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Avionics-List: TIS Connect Select --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in" to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is something I have to do manually. Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of that transponder using that signal? Thanks in advance, Tim do not archive -- 1/11/2006 -- 1/16/2006


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    Time: 10:50:31 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: TIS Connect Select
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hey Mike, thanks for the reply. I should have posted a follow-up that Garmin told me the same thing. Leave it open and it defaults to ON. Yes, I have the GDC34A, I ran these lines: DAC Remote Pin 2 Serial Out (TX) Chelton J1 pin 5 RX Pin 3 Serial In (RX) Chelton J1 pin 47 TX Pin 11 GND Serial Ground Chelton J1 pin 26 GND DAC GTX330 Pin 5 RX1-A 429 RX 1A Pin 37 ARINC 429OUT 1A Pin 6 RX1-B 429 RX 1B Pin 34 ARINC 429OUT 1B Pin 7 TX-A ARINC 429 Transmit A Pin 32 ARINC 429IN 1A Pin 8 TX-B ARINC 429 Transmit B Pin 35 ARINC 429IN 1B Pin 13 Common RX Shield I don't know if there is anything needed coming back from the Chelton to the GTX330, but I hooked it up just in case. Plus, when I emailed D2AV my pin connection plan, I got a simple "Yes" as a reply. So it wasn't a full "yes, that's what you need, and you have all of the pins right" but at least their quick glance and reply gave me some promise. I should be flying this setup within 1.5-2 months, so if you aren't that far along, I could updated you then. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Mike wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net> > > I called Garmin and was told to leave the TIS line open. The Garmin 330 > defaults to TIS on at power up and does not need that line to work with > the Chelton. You can put a momentary switch on that line and use it to > turn TIS on and off. I assume that you are using the DAC GDC34 ARINC > 429 to RS232 converter? Which other line did you run from your 330? I > have assumed that you only have to run one 429 channel (1 shielded > twisted pair) from the Garmin 330 to the converter. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:21 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com; avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: Avionics-List: TIS Connect Select > > --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > From reading the Garmin GTX330 manual inside and out, it looks > as if when I want to display traffic on my Chelton system > that I might have to manually activate TIS by momentarily > taking pin 46 "TIS CONNECT SELECT" to ground. If I were > displaying traffic on a GNS480, this would be handled > by the GNS480 by that unit signalling the GTX330 to "log in" > to TIS. I'm assuming that since I'm using a special converter > to interface the GTX330 to my Chelton that this function is > something I have to do manually. > > Is there anyone out there who can verify the operation of > that transponder using that signal? > > Thanks in advance, > Tim > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:31:17 PM PST US
    From: TeamGrumman@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GPS antennas
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 1/26/06 4:36:57 AM, bakerocb@cox.net writes: > This I did, ensuring that the antenna had a view clear of any metal > obstruction in the entire upper hemisphere. It has worked great. > I put mine on the glare shield, near the windshield. No problems. Short cord. No holes in the plane. No drag.




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