---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/07/06: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:42 AM - Re: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton (Mike) 2. 07:06 AM - Re: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton (Tim Olson) 3. 07:15 AM - Re: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton (Mike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:25 AM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: RE: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" Tim, I was able to get the DAC, GTX330, and the Chelton TIS system to work. My problem was a simple RS232 ground. The one thing that I did not do that the DAC install manual implies was to use both ARINC 429 channels. I only used one of them. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson Mike, I spoke at length last week with a DAC guy who said that no, you don't need the ARINC 429 back from the GDC34A to the GTX330. I actually have mine wired that way now. I think the GTX330 should be getting position info from the GNS480 in my case (connected via serial). My traffic does work between the GTX330 and GNS480, so those 2 items should have what they need. I did get an email from Peter at D2AV tonight and he said that he found that the Chelton should be set to HIGH speed to talk to the DAC box. The GTX330 should be set to HIGH talking to the DAC too. He said to go edit the system limits and set COM5 to high. I'm not sure if that's an available option though...I'll find out tomorrow. I did have some cool experience today with traffic on my GNS480...can't wait to get it running on the Chelton. I think we'll get it to work. If not, it sounds like they're working on getting the GNS480/GTX330 serial info figured out so we may be able to get rid of the DAC box eventually anyway...that would be nice. I'll let you know what I figure out tomorrow. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Mike wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" > > Tim, > > I am interfacing the GTX330 through the DAC GDC34A to the Chelton EFIS. > I'm trying to figure out if the GTX330 needs the ARINC 429 input from > the DAC GDC34A in order to provide the ARINC output. Currently I have > connected the GTX330 ARINC 429 output to the GDC34 and the RS232 TX/RX > to the Chelton EFIS. I didn't connect the ARINC input to the GTX330 for > two reasons, I didn't think it was needed, and it wasn't pre-wired when > I built the panel. I am thinking that the GTX330 needs position > information from the GPS in the EFIS, and therefore requires the ARINC > 429 input. What do you think? I have a call into Garmin and hope to > hear from them Monday. DAC was no help and Chelton has not been much > help on this issue. > > Mike Larkin > > Lancair Legacy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:35 PM > To: avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton > > --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Mike, > Do you have the GNS480 for a Nav/Com, or the 430/530? > I called to ask them for an update today and right > now their questioning that maybe the 480/330 are > teaming up to thwart the function in some way. > Would be interesting to know. > > Also, sure would be nice if they'd get their 480/330 > interfaces figured out so they can drop the whole > GDC34A altogether and just read the serial direct. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > > > Mike wrote: >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" >> >> I have the equipment, but like you am debugging. It's in and flying > but >> I can't get it to work.. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Olson >> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com; >> avionics-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton >> >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> At one point on a list I had a reply from someone who >> actually was using the GDC34A Arinc to serial converter >> like I am to get TIS traffic on their Chelton or other >> EFIS from the GTX330 Transponder. >> >> Right now that's my last remaining thing to debug that >> I've identified, and I'm hoping to talk to someone >> who's got it working to verify settings. >> >> Anyone out there with that equipment that can comment? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- 1/16/2006 -- 1/16/2006 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:42 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson That's great. I think the wiring is all fine on mine, but Peter tipped me off that Com 23/24 need to be set to HIGH in the setup. He had originally told me 5, which was incorrect. I haven't had a chance to try it since the news a couple days ago, but should soon. As for the 2 ARINC channels, if you mean in/out then you're right, there is no need for the IN on the GTX330. If you mean that you only used A or B, then that is something I'll have to look at the diagram and read and think through. I have both hooked up on mine....A&B. I just turned off the IN on the GTX330, but I do have the wires in place. Can always move them to something more useful. Thanks for keeping me posted. This is going to be so cool. The Traffic on the GNS480 is good, but this will be much much better. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Mike wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" > > Tim, > > I was able to get the DAC, GTX330, and the Chelton TIS system to work. > My problem was a simple RS232 ground. The one thing that I did not do > that the DAC install manual implies was to use both ARINC 429 channels. > I only used one of them. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:33 PM > To: avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton > > --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Mike, > > I spoke at length last week with a DAC guy who said that no, you don't > need the ARINC 429 back from the GDC34A to the GTX330. I actually > have mine wired that way now. I think the GTX330 should be getting > position info from the GNS480 in my case (connected via serial). My > traffic does work between the GTX330 and GNS480, so those 2 items > should have what they need. I did get an email from Peter at D2AV > tonight and he said that he found that the Chelton should be > set to HIGH speed to talk to the DAC box. The GTX330 should > be set to HIGH talking to the DAC too. He said to go edit the > system limits and set COM5 to high. I'm not sure if that's an > available option though...I'll find out tomorrow. I did have > some cool experience today with traffic on my GNS480...can't > wait to get it running on the Chelton. I think we'll get it to > work. If not, it sounds like they're working on getting the > GNS480/GTX330 serial info figured out so we may be able to get > rid of the DAC box eventually anyway...that would be nice. > I'll let you know what I figure out tomorrow. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Mike wrote: >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" >> >> Tim, >> >> I am interfacing the GTX330 through the DAC GDC34A to the Chelton > EFIS. >> I'm trying to figure out if the GTX330 needs the ARINC 429 input from >> the DAC GDC34A in order to provide the ARINC output. Currently I have >> connected the GTX330 ARINC 429 output to the GDC34 and the RS232 TX/RX >> to the Chelton EFIS. I didn't connect the ARINC input to the GTX330 > for >> two reasons, I didn't think it was needed, and it wasn't pre-wired > when >> I built the panel. I am thinking that the GTX330 needs position >> information from the GPS in the EFIS, and therefore requires the ARINC >> 429 input. What do you think? I have a call into Garmin and hope to >> hear from them Monday. DAC was no help and Chelton has not been much >> help on this issue. >> >> Mike Larkin >> >> Lancair Legacy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Olson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:35 PM >> To: avionics-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton >> >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> Mike, >> Do you have the GNS480 for a Nav/Com, or the 430/530? >> I called to ask them for an update today and right >> now their questioning that maybe the 480/330 are >> teaming up to thwart the function in some way. >> Would be interesting to know. >> >> Also, sure would be nice if they'd get their 480/330 >> interfaces figured out so they can drop the whole >> GDC34A altogether and just read the serial direct. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> >> >> Mike wrote: >>> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" >>> >>> I have the equipment, but like you am debugging. It's in and flying >> but >>> I can't get it to work.. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim >> Olson >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com; >>> avionics-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton >>> >>> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson >>> >>> At one point on a list I had a reply from someone who >>> actually was using the GDC34A Arinc to serial converter >>> like I am to get TIS traffic on their Chelton or other >>> EFIS from the GTX330 Transponder. >>> >>> Right now that's my last remaining thing to debug that >>> I've identified, and I'm hoping to talk to someone >>> who's got it working to verify settings. >>> >>> Anyone out there with that equipment that can comment? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:21 AM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: RE: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" Tim, I only use the one ARINC 429 channel out of the GTX330. I did not use the second out channel or the in channel. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson That's great. I think the wiring is all fine on mine, but Peter tipped me off that Com 23/24 need to be set to HIGH in the setup. He had originally told me 5, which was incorrect. I haven't had a chance to try it since the news a couple days ago, but should soon. As for the 2 ARINC channels, if you mean in/out then you're right, there is no need for the IN on the GTX330. If you mean that you only used A or B, then that is something I'll have to look at the diagram and read and think through. I have both hooked up on mine....A&B. I just turned off the IN on the GTX330, but I do have the wires in place. Can always move them to something more useful. Thanks for keeping me posted. This is going to be so cool. The Traffic on the GNS480 is good, but this will be much much better. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Mike wrote: > --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" > > Tim, > > I was able to get the DAC, GTX330, and the Chelton TIS system to work. > My problem was a simple RS232 ground. The one thing that I did not do > that the DAC install manual implies was to use both ARINC 429 channels. > I only used one of them. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:33 PM > To: avionics-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton > > --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Mike, > > I spoke at length last week with a DAC guy who said that no, you don't > need the ARINC 429 back from the GDC34A to the GTX330. I actually > have mine wired that way now. I think the GTX330 should be getting > position info from the GNS480 in my case (connected via serial). My > traffic does work between the GTX330 and GNS480, so those 2 items > should have what they need. I did get an email from Peter at D2AV > tonight and he said that he found that the Chelton should be > set to HIGH speed to talk to the DAC box. The GTX330 should > be set to HIGH talking to the DAC too. He said to go edit the > system limits and set COM5 to high. I'm not sure if that's an > available option though...I'll find out tomorrow. I did have > some cool experience today with traffic on my GNS480...can't > wait to get it running on the Chelton. I think we'll get it to > work. If not, it sounds like they're working on getting the > GNS480/GTX330 serial info figured out so we may be able to get > rid of the DAC box eventually anyway...that would be nice. > I'll let you know what I figure out tomorrow. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Mike wrote: >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" >> >> Tim, >> >> I am interfacing the GTX330 through the DAC GDC34A to the Chelton > EFIS. >> I'm trying to figure out if the GTX330 needs the ARINC 429 input from >> the DAC GDC34A in order to provide the ARINC output. Currently I have >> connected the GTX330 ARINC 429 output to the GDC34 and the RS232 TX/RX >> to the Chelton EFIS. I didn't connect the ARINC input to the GTX330 > for >> two reasons, I didn't think it was needed, and it wasn't pre-wired > when >> I built the panel. I am thinking that the GTX330 needs position >> information from the GPS in the EFIS, and therefore requires the ARINC >> 429 input. What do you think? I have a call into Garmin and hope to >> hear from them Monday. DAC was no help and Chelton has not been much >> help on this issue. >> >> Mike Larkin >> >> Lancair Legacy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Olson >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:35 PM >> To: avionics-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton >> >> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> Mike, >> Do you have the GNS480 for a Nav/Com, or the 430/530? >> I called to ask them for an update today and right >> now their questioning that maybe the 480/330 are >> teaming up to thwart the function in some way. >> Would be interesting to know. >> >> Also, sure would be nice if they'd get their 480/330 >> interfaces figured out so they can drop the whole >> GDC34A altogether and just read the serial direct. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> >> >> Mike wrote: >>> --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" >>> >>> I have the equipment, but like you am debugging. It's in and flying >> but >>> I can't get it to work.. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim >> Olson >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:07 AM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com; >>> avionics-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Avionics-List: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton >>> >>> --> Avionics-List message posted by: Tim Olson >>> >>> At one point on a list I had a reply from someone who >>> actually was using the GDC34A Arinc to serial converter >>> like I am to get TIS traffic on their Chelton or other >>> EFIS from the GTX330 Transponder. >>> >>> Right now that's my last remaining thing to debug that >>> I've identified, and I'm hoping to talk to someone >>> who's got it working to verify settings. >>> >>> Anyone out there with that equipment that can comment? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- 1/16/2006 -- 1/16/2006