Avionics-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/29/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:18 AM - Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 ()
     2. 07:35 AM - Re: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 (Dan Beadle)
     3. 08:23 AM - Re: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 (Jesse Saint)
     4. 11:21 AM - Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 (Bruce McGregor)
     5. 03:03 PM - Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder!  (Matt Dralle)
     6. 04:18 PM - Re: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 (Paul McAllister)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:18:41 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> Resonding to an Avionics-List message previously posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com 5/29/2006 Hello Doug, You wrote: " .....skip.....I have the $50/mo subscription.....skip....." Wow! I had no idea weather info was that expensive. What do you get for your $50 and from who? Is there some less costly subscription method? Thanks. OC << Don, I have no experience with other systems and I am computer stupid, so I got the G396. I have the $50/mo subscription so I can use it in the RV-7 and the company Citation. It has helped me several times in each aircraft. I think I would prefer the 396 to the radar in the Citation. I can see the whole picture....no attenuation Good luck. Doug Preston >>


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    Time: 07:35:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396
    From: "Dan Beadle" <Dan.Beadle@hq.inclinesoftworks.com>
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <Dan.Beadle@hq.InclineSoftworks.com> I have XM weather on my MX20. About $50. Well worth it. Although I have on board radar and stormscope, this gives a lot more information for planning: - Winds aloft for each 3,000' up into the mid flight levels - Metars (visual & text) - TAFs (text) - TFRs (visual & text) - Clouds - Front movement - Nexrad satellite - Lightning Oh, and it does have music.... I find it useful to have the Nexrad working in conjunction with on board RADAR. RADAR can be attenuated, not letting you see beyond the nearest storm. Nexrad lets me see "over the horizon". In my RV, I will probably go with a 396 to get most of these features at an affordable cost. For me, the $50 is $600 a year - about the same as the cost of my Jepps. Just a cost of doing business, of flying safely. -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bakerocb@cox.net Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 --> Avionics-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> Resonding to an Avionics-List message previously posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com 5/29/2006 Hello Doug, You wrote: " .....skip.....I have the $50/mo subscription.....skip....." Wow! I had no idea weather info was that expensive. What do you get for your $50 and from who? Is there some less costly subscription method? Thanks. OC << Don, I have no experience with other systems and I am computer stupid, so I got the G396. I have the $50/mo subscription so I can use it in the RV-7 and the company Citation. It has helped me several times in each aircraft. I think I would prefer the 396 to the radar in the Citation. I can see the whole picture....no attenuation Good luck. Doug Preston >>


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    Time: 08:23:13 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> XM weather at first look seems expensive at $50/month, but if you fly a lot, it pays for itself very quickly. For example, these days that would be about 12 gallons of 100LL. If you can make a flight without having to divert because of weather that you can't see around or through, you have paid for that month just with the fuel savings. On the other hand, if you divert because of the weather on your screen when you might have decided to fly through it because you didn't realize how severe it was (or were in the soup and didn't see the nasty stuff) and had problems and either messed up your plane and possibly your body and those of your passengers, that start sounding really cheap. If you are flying day VFR, then $50 is very expensive possibly, unless you are trying to decide if you can make if VFR (which the XM can very often tell you) then the first example comes back into play. In some cases you can even save fuel by using the winds aloft info, although this doesn't seem to have made much difference in N256H over 200 hrs of flying. It is just fast enough that you are best off picking an efficient flight level with good weather and not worrying too much about the different winds at different levels/altitudes. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beadle Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Dan Beadle" <Dan.Beadle@hq.InclineSoftworks.com> I have XM weather on my MX20. About $50. Well worth it. Although I have on board radar and stormscope, this gives a lot more information for planning: - Winds aloft for each 3,000' up into the mid flight levels - Metars (visual & text) - TAFs (text) - TFRs (visual & text) - Clouds - Front movement - Nexrad satellite - Lightning Oh, and it does have music.... I find it useful to have the Nexrad working in conjunction with on board RADAR. RADAR can be attenuated, not letting you see beyond the nearest storm. Nexrad lets me see "over the horizon". In my RV, I will probably go with a 396 to get most of these features at an affordable cost. For me, the $50 is $600 a year - about the same as the cost of my Jepps. Just a cost of doing business, of flying safely. -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bakerocb@cox.net Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396 --> Avionics-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> Resonding to an Avionics-List message previously posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com 5/29/2006 Hello Doug, You wrote: " .....skip.....I have the $50/mo subscription.....skip....." Wow! I had no idea weather info was that expensive. What do you get for your $50 and from who? Is there some less costly subscription method? Thanks. OC << Don, I have no experience with other systems and I am computer stupid, so I got the G396. I have the $50/mo subscription so I can use it in the RV-7 and the company Citation. It has helped me several times in each aircraft. I think I would prefer the 396 to the radar in the Citation. I can see the whole picture....no attenuation Good luck. Doug Preston >> -- --


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    Time: 11:21:13 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce McGregor" <bruceflys@comcast.net>
    Subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Bruce McGregor" <bruceflys@comcast.net> Take a look at True Flight's unit: www.aviationsafety.com The screen is significantly bigger and the brightest that I have seen in GA aircraft. The unit really isn't portable, but mounts readily on a RAM swivel with the XM receiver velcroed under the panel and the antennas placed on the glareshield. It offers approach plates and approach depictions, although not for leagl IFR use. Monthly downloads of approach plates and base map updates costs $199/yr, but saves the cost of paper subscriptions. After three months use, I am satisfied with mine. Operation does require some study and practice. Happy shopping, Bruce McGregor


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    Time: 03:03:39 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder!
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List: =========== continental-list@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions here. =========== =========== lightning-list@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/ =========== Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The URL for the Matronics Wiki is: http://wiki.matronics.com Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 04:18:46 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Anywhere Map w/WX versus Garmin 396
    --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi Don, I have the Airgator systems on my PDA, which is very similar to the Anywhere product. I like it for a number of reasons. If you buy an up market PDA then the screen size is greater than the 396. The user interface is pretty slick and it has some a few "nice to have, but not essential" features. I also find the product is continually being enhanced. I don't know about the Anywhere system, but its possible to configure an Airgator system with a serial cable which plugs into a remote box so you can get rid of bunches of cables running everywhere. I find its handy to have PDA because it does other stuff. I have a set of approach plates on it and although they are hard to use on the small screen in a bind they are sure better than nothing. I am finding that more places have WiFi hot spots, so its handy to be able to browse the internet at some of my destinations. Finally, if you ever want to its an easy upgrade to one of the palm PC which give a lot of screen real estate. If you would like to know more about the Airgator system feel free to contact me off list. Paul




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