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1. 09:37 AM - Re: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options (Mike)
2. 09:40 AM - Re: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options (Mike)
3. 11:32 AM - Re: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options (Chris In Madison)
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Subject: | FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
Chris,
Just to clear up something John wrote that is incorrect about the
statement " The Chelton can not even display nav data (like localizer /
glide slope or VOR) from the480." This statement is incorrect. The 480
has the same output provided on the SL-30/SL-40 located on page D-23 if
the installation manual. The 480 was the UPS CNX-80 designed by UPS the
same folks that created the SL30/40. So in short you can display and
control navigation function for ILS/LOC/VOR on the Chelton through a
serial data bus.
Mike Larkin
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[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Richardson
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: RE: Avionics-List: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "John Richardson"
<jrichard@ccser.com>
Chris
>From what I've learned building my Lancair Legacy and going around with
Direct to Avionics (Chelton rep to experimental) the Chelton system does
not
interface with the Garmin 480....only the SL-30/SL-40 via serial bus.
Most
panels I see at Lancair that are using the Chelton system rely on the
FreeFlight GPS and flight planning is done in the Chelton user
interface. A
480 or 430 is back-up only. Seems like a bit of a waste. The Chelton
can
not even display nav data (like localizer / glide slope or VOR) from the
480.
I love the 480 and have decided to go with Grand Rapids interfacing to
the
480 and SL-30. Flight planning will be done on the 480 and the Grand
Rapids
unit will display the whole flight path with the current leg colored
magenta. HSI will show both Nav 1 and Nav2 in different colors. And
with
Chelton, I also miss the "pan". On the 480, you can scroll ahead of
your
current location to look at airspace ahead or on either side of your
flight
path and get data on "nearest" waypoints to the pan location.
The Chelton screen is beautiful with very high resolution and good
sunlight
visibility. It's nice to have all these choices.
Regards
John Richardson
Spokane WA
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[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris In
Madison
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Avionics-List: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Hello all,
I've been following Tim Olson's RV-10 project for a while and he uses a
GNS-480 in his panel in addition to the built-in GPS of the Pinpoint
GADHRS.
>From what I read, the 480 pretty much sits dormant in the background
while
the built-in GPS does most of the work. Presumably, the 480 is there
because it's the only IFR-certified GPS of the Garmin line (and in his
plane). Presuming someone was to use the FreeFlight GPS option to meet
the
IFR requirements, would one be losing any functionality that the 480
offers?
I've gone through a majority of the feature/operation videos on the
Chelton
site, and the system is really thorough in its navigation options,
flight
planning, etc. Would a pilot miss not having a 480 in the panel by
relying
on the Chelton, or are they similarly capable?
I do see the benefit of having the 480 as a GPS backup in case of
EFIS/FreeFlight failure, to be sure, but thought I'd pose the question.
I
suppose there's always the tried-and-true radio navigation as well :-)
Thanks and best regards,
Chris
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Chris Owens
Waunakee, WI
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Subject: | FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
Chris,
Here is a note from Chelton and Direct from the latest news letter about
using the GPS as a standalone system.
The FreeFlight receiver coupled with your Chelton EFIS allows for
LNAV/VNAV GPS WAAS approaches and IFR/G designation, allowing for
stand-alone IFR navigation. When the 1101 is present, the Chelton
software provides the integrity monitoring necessary for TSO-C145/146.
The FreeFlight 1101 and Chelton EFIS-SV work together, providing the
same functional requirements as the certified Chelton FlightLogic EFIS.
Mike Larkin
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[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris In
Madison
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Avionics-List: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Hello all,
I've been following Tim Olson's RV-10 project for a while and he uses a
GNS-480 in his panel in addition to the built-in GPS of the Pinpoint
GADHRS. From what I read, the 480 pretty much sits dormant in the
background while the built-in GPS does most of the work. Presumably,
the 480 is there because it's the only IFR-certified GPS of the Garmin
line (and in his plane). Presuming someone was to use the FreeFlight
GPS option to meet the IFR requirements, would one be losing any
functionality that the 480 offers?
I've gone through a majority of the feature/operation videos on the
Chelton site, and the system is really thorough in its navigation
options, flight planning, etc. Would a pilot miss not having a 480 in
the panel by relying on the Chelton, or are they similarly capable?
I do see the benefit of having the 480 as a GPS backup in case of
EFIS/FreeFlight failure, to be sure, but thought I'd pose the question.
I suppose there's always the tried-and-true radio navigation as well :-)
Thanks and best regards,
Chris
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Chris Owens
Waunakee, WI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=60403#60403
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Subject: | Re: FAO Chelton users: outboard GPS options |
--> Avionics-List message posted by: "Chris In Madison" <cowens@cnw.com>
Many thanks for info Mike. I think a FreeFlight GPS and a couple of SL30s ought
to be the perfect combination and take up a heck of a lot less space on the
panel.
Many thanks for your thoughts.
Best regards,
Chris
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Chris Owens
Waunakee, WI
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=60621#60621
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