---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/20/06: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:09 PM - GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II (Hans-Dieter Aue) 2. 12:27 PM - Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II (Jim Streit) 3. 12:54 PM - Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II (glen matejcek) 4. 12:59 PM - FW: ICS Plus nav/com (glen matejcek) 5. 01:37 PM - Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II (Hans-Dieter Aue) 6. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II (Peter Rees) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:34 PM PST US Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II From: "Hans-Dieter Aue" Hi group, I have an GPS Skyforce IIIC produced in 1999 with current software update. The GPS worked fine so far and I would like to connect it to a TT Digi Flight II in my RV10. Have anyone experiences with that combination? The Skyforce can speak both NMEA-0183 format (4800 baud, 8 data bit, 1 stop bit, no parity) and AR-NAV-Data format (9600 baud, 8 data bit, 1 stop bit, no parity) on the serial output. In case of NMEA-format the sentences RMC, GGA and RMB are send out. I can show the sentence struture if it helps. Can anyone light me up if this pair works together and if I am able to fly programmed flightplans on the Skyforce. All input appreciated. Hans-Dieter -------- Hans-Dieter Aue N110GH 40424 Finish kit Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82715#82715 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:05 PM PST US From: Jim Streit Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II Hans, Why don't you contact True Trak. They certainly be able to tell you yes or no and how to hook it up. Jim Streit Hans-Dieter Aue wrote: > > Hi group, > > I have an GPS Skyforce IIIC produced in 1999 with current software update. The GPS worked fine so far and I would like to connect it to a TT Digi Flight II in my RV10. > > Have anyone experiences with that combination? > > The Skyforce can speak both NMEA-0183 format (4800 baud, 8 data bit, 1 stop bit, no parity) and AR-NAV-Data format (9600 baud, 8 data bit, 1 stop bit, no parity) on the serial output. > > In case of NMEA-format the sentences RMC, GGA and RMB are send out. I can show the sentence struture if it helps. > > Can anyone light me up if this pair works together and if I am able to fly programmed flightplans on the Skyforce. All input appreciated. > > Hans-Dieter > > -------- > Hans-Dieter Aue > N110GH > 40424 > Finish kit > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82715#82715 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:15 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II Hi All- I've a friend with a problem (no, really...). He has an ICS Plus nav/com that had been marketed by Wag Aero at one time. It is now malfunctioning, and he would like to try to get it serviced. So far he's had no luck, either through Wag or the Internet. Although not exquisitely intuitive to use, it does have a lot of pretty neat and useful features, and I don't blame him for trying to get it fixed. Does anyone on the list have any (constructive) suggestions? glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:59 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: Avionics-List: FW: ICS Plus nav/com > Hi All- > > (this one has the correct subject line) > > I've a friend with a problem (no, really...). He has an ICS Plus nav/com that had been marketed by Wag Aero at one time. It is now malfunctioning, and he would like to try to get it serviced. So far he's had no luck, either through Wag or the Internet. Although not exquisitely intuitive to use, it does have a lot of pretty neat and useful features, and I don't blame him for trying to get it fixed. > Does anyone on the list have any (constructive) suggestions? > glen matejcek > aerobubba@earthlink.net > > glen matejcek > aerobubba@earthlink.net > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:58 PM PST US Subject: Avionics-List: Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II From: "Hans-Dieter Aue" Jim, I would had do so, but I can't believe that TruTrak will test all the (older) GPS in the world with there products. So I thought I ask anybody who probabley figured this out. I would also be glad to hear any experiences on that matter. Hans-Dieter -------- Hans-Dieter Aue N110GH 40424 Finish kit Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=82742#82742 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:09 PM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Re: GPS Skyforce IIIC and Trutrak Digi Flight II Hans If the unit you're referring to was made by Bendix King - the IIIc that is installed in an avionics tray and was called the CM-2000, I had the following observations when connecting it to our Trio EZpilot. I believe that the baud rate specified by the NEMA protocol should be 4800 but the CM-2000 is set to 9600 baud and cannot be changed - its quite possible that the autopilot you want to connect to may be configured to support this but you'd need to check with the manufacturers. There are a few other problem with the CM-2000. Apparently , the GPRMB string is missing from the NEMA stream. Also: 1. the track error field has provision for track error up to 999.99 miles. The other units have 99.99. 2. the magnetic variation field has provision for up to 359.99 degrees of variation. The other units were limited to 59.99 These differences may well confuse the string processing of your autopilot if its not able to adapt to the differences from the NEMA spec. I guess the answer is to either contact the manufacturer and ask them to either affirm that their unit will definitely work with your GPS (or that they will modify it to), get a newer GPS (the CM-2000 is a good, colour unit and I'd hold onto it if I were you) or get an autopilot from TRIO whose unit definitely works very well indeed with the CM-2000. regards Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message avionics-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Avionics-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/avionics-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/avionics-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.