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Mon 11/26/07


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     0. 12:05 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec 1! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:34 AM - GPS Antenna (teamgrumman@aol.com)
     2. 03:49 AM - Re: GPS Antenna (Charles Reiche)
     3. 10:10 AM - Re: GPS Antenna (Noel R. C. Loveys)
     4. 09:50 PM - Re: GPS Antenna (teamgrumman@aol.com)
     5. 09:59 PM - Re: GPS Antenna (teamgrumman@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:05:59 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
    Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 12:34:11 AM PST US
    Subject: GPS Antenna
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    I've been trying to find an acceptable answer as to why Garmin wants to have the coax cable for the=C2- GPS antenna to be between 13 and 15 feet. If I can mount an antenna just 15 inches away from the=C2- unit itself, why do I need to mount the antenna 15 feet away? One explanation I got was the 430/530 needed a 3 db loss in the cable. Now, it seems to me that the stronger the signal at the unit is, the better. For what it's worth, I mounted my antenna (Garmin 430) on the glareshield on my Tiger. That was 4 years ago. I've never had any problems with losing the signal. I'm installing another 430 and was told the 430 won't work with a 15 inch cable. Any ideas? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http ://mail.aol.com


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    Time: 03:49:03 AM PST US
    From: "Charles Reiche" <reichec@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS Antenna
    If you need a short cable run, install a 3db attenuator inline and make the cable as short as you want. Otherwise you can excpect to burn up the front end of the gps reciever due to overload, a $900+ flat rate repair follows. ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com To: avionics-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:32 AM Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna I've been trying to find an acceptable answer as to why Garmin wants to have the coax cable for the GPS antenna to be between 13 and 15 feet. If I can mount an antenna just 15 inches away from the unit itself, why do I need to mount the antenna 15 feet away? One explanation I got was the 430/530 needed a 3 db loss in the cable. Now, it seems to me that the stronger the signal at the unit is, the better.For what it's worth, I mounted my antenna (Garmin 430) on the glareshield on my Tiger.That was 4 years ago. I've never had any problems with losing the signal. I'm installing another 430 and was told the 430 won't work with a 15 inch cable. Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail!


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    Time: 10:10:24 AM PST US
    From: "Noel R. C. Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: GPS Antenna
    The received signal is digital. This means it only receives 1s and 0s. If the signal is too strong (cable shortened) everything looks like a 1. If the signal is too low ( cable lengthened) everything looks like a 0. Either way no data is received. I guess the folks at Garmin knew what they were doing when they wrote the installation instructions. Loop the excess wire in as large a loop as practicably possible. Try to avoid bundling with Xmtr. Coax. Noel From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:02 AM Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna I've been trying to find an acceptable answer as to why Garmin wants to have the coax cable for the GPS antenna to be between 13 and 15 feet. If I can mount an antenna just 15 inches away from the unit itself, why do I need to mount the antenna 15 feet away? One explanation I got was the 430/530 needed a 3 db loss in the cable. Now, it seems to me that the stronger the signal at the unit is, the better. For what it's worth, I mounted my antenna (Garmin 430) on the glareshield on my Tiger. That was 4 years ago. I've never had any problems with losing the signal. I'm installing another 430 and was told the 430 won't work with a 15 inch cable. Any ideas? _____ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail <http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/index.htm?nci d=AOLAOF00020000000970> !


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    Time: 09:50:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS Antenna
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    So, how long does it take to burn up? =C2-4 years and going strong. -----Original Message----- From: Charles Reiche <reichec@verizon.net> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 3:46 am Subject: Re: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna If you need a short cable run, install a 3db attenuator inline and make the cable as short as you want. Otherwise you can excpect to burn up the front end of the gps reciever due to overload, a $900 + flat rate repair follows. ----- Original Message ----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:32 AM Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna I've been trying to find an acceptable answer as to why Garmin wants to have the coax cable for the=C2- GPS antenna to be between 13 and 15 feet. If I can mount an antenna just 15 inches away from the=C2- unit itself, why do I need to mount the antenna 15 feet away? One explanation I got was the 430/530 needed a 3 db loss in the cable. Now, it seems to me that the stronger the signal at the unit is, the better. For what it's worth, I mounted my antenna (Garmin 430) on the glareshield on my Tiger. That was 4 years ago. I've never had any problems with losing the signal. I'm installing another 430 and was told the 430 won't work with a 15 inch cable. Any ideas? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chre f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Avionics-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http ://mail.aol.com


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    Time: 09:59:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS Antenna
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    I have both a Garmin 430 and an Apollo SL-60 with antennas mounted about 12 to 15 inches away. =C2-Both work fine with no signal loss. =C2-I've flow n all over the country with them. =C2-Maybe I'm getting a 3db loss through the plexiglass windshield. -----Original Message----- From: Noel R. C. Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 9:53 am Subject: RE: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna The received signal is digital.=C2- This means it only receives 1s and 0s. =C2-If the signal is too strong (cable shortened) everything looks like a 1.=C2- If the signal is too low ( cable lengthened) everything looks like a 0.=C2- Either way no data is received. =C2- I guess the folks at Garmin knew what they were doing when they wrote the installation instructions.=C2 - Loop the excess wire in as large a loop as practicably possible.=C2- Try to avo id bundling with Xmtr. Coax. =C2- Noel =C2- =C2- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:02 AM Subject: Avionics-List: GPS Antenna =C2- I've been trying to find an acceptable answer as to why Garmin wants to have the coax cable for the=C2- GPS antenna to be between 13 and 15 feet.=C2- If I can mount an antenna ju st 15 inches away from the=C2- unit itself, why do I need to mount the antenna 15 feet away?=C2- =C2- One explanation I got was the 430/530 needed a 3 db loss in the cable.=C2 - Now, it seems to me that the stronger the signal at the unit is, the better. =C2- For what it's worth, I mounted my antenna (Garmin 430) on the glareshield on my Tiger. That was 4 years ago.=C2- I've never had any problems with losing the sign al.=C2- I'm installing another 430 and was told the 430 won't work with a 15 inch cable.=C2- =C2- Any ideas? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Avionics-List http://forums.matronics.com =C2- ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http ://mail.aol.com




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