---------------------------------------------------------- Avionics-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/18/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:59 AM - Re: Re: VHF Transmitting Noise (Garlick, Bill (W.D.)) 2. 06:27 AM - IFR GPS requirements () 3. 08:38 AM - Changing Prop & FSDO () 4. 09:03 AM - Re: Changing Prop & FSDO () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Re: VHF Transmitting Noise From: "Garlick, Bill (W.D.)" Ralph, Thanks for your suggestion, I'll certainly try that...it's worth investigating as the noise seems to be in time with my transmissions rather than a regular mechanical interference. I remember seeing the S-tone adjustment hole during installation but I didn't pay too much attention to it at the time. (My biggest concern then was would the radio and intercom actually work after my wiring efforts) Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jetboy Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:38 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Re: VHF Transmitting Noise Bill, Another thing to check is that the sidetone produced by the IC 200 is not adding to any sidetone provided by the PS intercom. There might be instructions about this on the PS engineering site. The IC 200 can be withdrawn from its tray, on the top cover there will be an adjustment hole marked "S-tone" which you can reset all the way back or fwd as the case may be, to prevent the radio putting a sample of your voice into the earphones during transmission. I expect the intercom already does this for you, so you dont require it twice. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158970#158970 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:31 AM PST US From: Subject: Avionics-List: IFR GPS requirements 1/18/2008 Hello Glen, You are absolutely correct and I apologize for that moment of weakness when I wrote to just avoid the ignorant bureaucrat. If we don't (politely) confront these people who are misusing their position, either out of ignorance or ego, we will suffer further abuses down the line. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." -------------------------------------------------- From: "glen matejcek" Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: IFR GPS requirements Hi Bill et al- Re: >Hello Bill, Avoid that poor soul -- he has not been around long enough or >cared enough to learn that type certificated aircraft and amateur built >experimental aircraft are treated very differently in the FAA's paperwork >system. While I greatly appreciate and highly regard and respect the source of that comment, I couldn't disagree more. If this inspector has run 50 unnecessary 337's through the system, he has cost a lot of people a lot of money, spread misinformation across the system, and will no doubt cause other improperly educated or motivated inspectors to take the 'conservative' (ignorant) route at our collective expense. In other words, there has been a gross misuse of governmental power. These kinds of topics have gone to DC and back via OSH, and we have the tools to correct the problem you are facing. My personal experience with an amateur built rule hose-up was to be very (politely) clear with the person involved about the nature and basis for our disconnect, and then call OSH with the details. Within 24 hours they had achieved understanding with the head of the directorate involved, and within another 24 the fed involved had been re-educated. That ended the problem for me, and, presumably, everyone who came along after. Also, the feds now have a program to handle customer service issues in house. As I understand it, it's the equivalent of 'let me speak to your supervisor', although I don't recall the precise terminology. Mike, can you fill us in? While I don't advocate getting into hostile conflicts with The Man, I strongly urge you (and anyone else having bogus reg interpretation issues) to fight the good fight with the resources we have developed and paid for through our EAA dues and those gate fees at OSH we are all unhappy about. Heck, Brian got a law in Jacksonville repealed with a little help from his friends. What's one confused inspector? glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:44 AM PST US From: Subject: Avionics-List: Changing Prop & FSDO 1/18/2008 Hello Ron, You wrote: 1) "Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft is sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought from pervious owners know this,......" I would venture that very few subsequent owners of amateur built experimental aircraft do not know of this requirement because it is not true. 2) ",,,,,,,,,, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply hidden in the regulations." No matter how deeply hidden in the regulations this requirement may be it has to be written down. I would dearly love for you to contact this gent and find out just exactly where it is written so that we can read it for ourselves. The FAA is not in the business of having secret regulations. Many thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." -------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronko" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Changing Prop & FSDO Thanks for your response. I called the local FSDO in West Chicago, Illinois, and they gave me the same instructions that you outlined. Interesting set of responses from the group. Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft is sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought from pervious owners know this, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply hidden in the regulations. The guy that I talked to at the FSDO told me my situation was not a problem. With the new prop process, I will get both requirements met. Thanks again for your feedback. Best regards, Ron ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:54 AM PST US Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Changing Prop & FSDO From: I'd call Okla City before I'd make any such move - oh yes, and get that in writing. Deeply hidden doesn't cut the cheese. -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bakerocb@cox.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Avionics-List: Changing Prop & FSDO 1/18/2008 Hello Ron, You wrote: 1) "Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft is sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought from pervious owners know this,......" I would venture that very few subsequent owners of amateur built experimental aircraft do not know of this requirement because it is not true. 2) ",,,,,,,,,, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply hidden in the regulations." No matter how deeply hidden in the regulations this requirement may be it has to be written down. I would dearly love for you to contact this gent and find out just exactly where it is written so that we can read it for ourselves. The FAA is not in the business of having secret regulations. Many thanks. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." -------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronko" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Changing Prop & FSDO Thanks for your response. I called the local FSDO in West Chicago, Illinois, and they gave me the same instructions that you outlined. Interesting set of responses from the group. Another thing that the FSDO told me, even when an experimental aircraft is sold and there is a new owner, along with the FAA registration records update, the new owner needs to get a new Airworthiness Certificate with the himself as the owner (the original builder info stays the same). He mentioned that very few owners of experimental aircraft that they bought from pervious owners know this, plus the FAA has this requirement too deeply hidden in the regulations. The guy that I talked to at the FSDO told me my situation was not a problem. With the new prop process, I will get both requirements met. Thanks again for your feedback. 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