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1. 03:17 AM - Re: Inflight cameras (Carlos Trigo)
2. 05:51 AM - Re: Inflight cameras (N395V)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: Inflight cameras (Noel Loveys)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Inflight cameras (Gary Liming)
5. 09:20 AM - Inflight Cameras (Steve Hutt)
6. 10:39 AM - Re: Inflight cameras (D Wysong)
7. 10:52 AM - TVS Failures ()
8. 04:52 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List: TVS Failures (Henador Titzoff)
9. 08:27 PM - Re: Inflight cameras (teamgrumman@aol.com)
10. 08:36 PM - Re: Inflight Cameras (teamgrumman@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Inflight cameras |
I am also interested in what you find
Carlos Trigo
RV-9A
Portugal
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Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Inflight cameras
If you should receive any response would you mind sharing?
Marwin Goff
DSM
Varieze O-200
515-360-0778
bucsdds@aol.com
In a message dated 2/26/2008 6:24:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
lik_2_fly@hotmail.com writes:
Hi,
Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having
trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that
can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.
Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head?
Does anyone know what type of camera's are used in redbull air races?
cheers
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight cameras |
Good discussion about them here.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=25181&highlight=camera+easy
Several other threads on VAF if you search cameras or videos,
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Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=166538#166538
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| Subject: | Inflight cameras |
I think most of the guys just use one small video camera in the plane or
mounted outside. With multiple cameras you can edit the pieces together on
you r computer. Bringing a whole switching suite aloft in a two seat plane
isn't really an option.
I would recommend using a 1A skylight filter for video aloft to kill some of
the excess blue you usually get. It will also make the ground look a lot
sharper.. White light balancing can do a lot to correct colour but to do
the job right you still have to go back to either a 1A or a UV lens filter.
When placed on a sheet of white paper the 1A will appear to have a very
slight yellow tint.. The UV will look slightly salmon colour. Neither
filter will affect your exposure.
I also advise you to go to a camera specialty shop to buy your equipment.
They probably won't look at you as if you had two heads when you ask about
filters to fit the camera you are about to purchase. They will also be able
to advise you on the care and operation of your camera and generally if
warranty is required they will help there too. BTW most camera stores are
very competitive with big box outfits like Wallyco.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: Avionics-List: Inflight cameras
I am also interested in what you find
Carlos Trigo
RV-9A
Portugal
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Sent: quarta-feira, 27 de Fevereiro de 2008 1:26
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Inflight cameras
If you should receive any response would you mind sharing?
Marwin Goff
DSM
Varieze O-200
515-360-0778
bucsdds@aol.com
In a message dated 2/26/2008 6:24:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
lik_2_fly@hotmail.com writes:
Hi,
Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. Having
trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders that
can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.
Or do people just run individual video camera's for each remote head?
Does anyone know what type of camera's are used in redbull air races?
cheers
Chris
_____
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<http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du
ffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598> the video on AOL Living.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight cameras |
I have four permanent mounts on my airplane - a camera looking
straight aft (which comes in handy as a "rear view mirror") and makes
very dramatic departure footage in the STOL plane, and one on each
wing on a ground adjustable swivel. I usually have the right wingcam
pointed straight ahead (or sometimes, straight down) and the other
one I have pointed at the cabin. I also have a rear cabin camera
pointed at the panel, also looking out the windshield, and another
one (lower res) that is wireless that can be duct taped anywhere
outside on the airframe for recording tufts, etc. All of the these
go into a shielded 5 position switch box that has two outputs, one to
a monitor built into the door of my mapbox, and the other to jacks to
the video camera. The audio portion of the video camera is fed by
the intercom's output of the pilot's headphones, so anything I hear
in my headphones is recorded. All devices are 12 volts.
The cameras are 480 line Sony super HAD 1/3 inch sensor cams that
allow for different focal length lenses. They look pretty good for
standard res tv, and make for some clear images. Anything less looks
pretty bad - I am waiting for some 720 or even 1080 cams to be
cheaply available - then I might upgrade the cameras.
I usually just hook up the camera to the system and turn it on as
part of preflight - select which camera I want to record, and then
forget about it until landing. One exception is if I want to see who
is behind me on the taxi way if its a busy day. I have learned to
always have the recorder on, though, because you simply don't know
what might come up - the one time you don't use it is the time you
wish you had. If the flight is unremarkable, I just rewind the DV
for the next flight.
Gary Liming
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| Subject: | Inflight Cameras |
I've no experience of using these, but they are built specifically for
this sort of task...
See here: http://www.sport-cam.co.uk/activities.asp
These folks are in the UK but I'd be very surprised if there's no
equivalent available in the US.
Take a look at the Quad Splitter and the 30GB Digital Recorder in the
Recording Devices section.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight cameras |
> Hi, Wondering if anyone has any experiance with in flight video camera's. H
> aving trouble finding reasonably high quality camera's as well as recorders
> that can take mutliple camera's without the quality degrading.
See info on cameras, recorder selection, and some great flying videos here:
http://www.thedukes.org/rv/tailcam.html
As you noted, pulling multiple feeds into one recorder will degrade
the quality since you're "sharing" a fixed amount of recorder
resolution between the cameras. We dedicate one recorder per camera
or use a video switcher between multiple cameras and a single
recorder.
D
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2/27/2008
Hello Fellow Builders, The certificated airplane community has been hit with
a series of TVS failures. Several different manufacturer's airplanes have
been affected.
Copied below is just one of the SAIB's that the FAA has issued on this
subject.
If your project includes TVS' you may want to further investigate -- the
same TVS manufacturer seems to be involved in all failures.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
-----------------------------------------------------
FAA
Aircraft Certification Service
SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS
INFORMATION BULLETIN
SUBJ: Electrical Power
SAIB: CE-08-12
This is information only. Recommendations aren't mandatory.
Introduction
This Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) advises you of an
airworthiness concern on
Cirrus Design Corporation (CDC) Models SR20 and SR22 airplanes where
possible failure of a
transient voltage suppressor (TVS) may result in an increase in workload for
the pilot.
This airworthiness action has been taken after consideration of the
responses from CDC as well as
airplane owners/ operators through relevant associations and type clubs,
using the procedures found
in the Small Airplane Directorate Airworthiness Directives Manual Supplement
(Airworthiness
Concern Process Guide).
At this time, this airworthiness concern is not considered an unsafe
condition that would warrant an
airworthiness directive (AD) action under Title 14 of the Code of Federal
Regulations (14 CFR part
39).
Background
CDC notified the Federal Aviation Administration of the failure of a TVS on
a CDC Model SR22
airplane, which resulted in loss of NAV/COM1 functionality and some smoke
and fumes within the
cockpit. Since that time, 14 other TVS's have failed on CDC airplanes in the
field.
Other airplanes equipped with TVSs from the same manufacturer have recently
experienced failures.
Our findings thus far, show that the electronic component itself is the
primary suspect for a cause of
the failures. To date, no specific reason has been positively identified for
the failures although several
companies are working on the problem.
As previously mentioned, no other functionality other than the NAV/COMM 1
has been lost on a
CDC airplane. All CDC airplanes have redundancy with a NAV/COMM 2 available.
Also, in all
known occurrences of TVS failures, the smoke and fumes have been noted to be
of short duration and
not sufficient to impede the pilots visibility, or toxic such that the pilot's
ability to operate the
airplane is impaired.
Recommendations
We recommend that all CDC airplane owner/operators thoroughly read Cirrus
service advisory SA
07-17, dated September 11, 2007. The service advisory provides good
information on what to expect
should a TVS failure occur and what actions should be taken by the pilot.
For Further Information Contact
Wesley Rouse, Aerospace Engineer, FAA Chicago Aircraft Certification, 2300
E. Devon, Des
Plaines, IL 60018; phone: (847) 294-8113; email: wess.rouse@faa.gov
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List: TVS Failures |
Bob,
Without calling the FAA, you wouldn't happen to know how to get the failed TVS
vendor's name, would you? The CDC website of course has no bad news in it. I'm
sure the vendor isn't advertising it, either.
Thanks,
Henador Titzof
----- Original Message ----
From: "bakerocb@cox.net" <bakerocb@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:49:42 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: TVS Failures
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
2/27/2008
Hello Fellow Builders, The certificated airplane community has been hit with
a series of TVS failures. Several different manufacturer's airplanes have
been affected.
Copied below is just one of the SAIB's that the FAA has issued on this
subject.
If your project includes TVS' you may want to further investigate -- the
same TVS manufacturer seems to be involved in all failures.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight cameras |
Would it be possible to provide a list of the parts, where they can be purch
ased, and how much. =C2-I am about to do some flight testing and was wonde
ring about cameras.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org>
Sent: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 9:09 am
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Inflight cameras
=C2-
I have four permanent mounts on my airplane - a camera looking
straight aft (which comes in handy as a "rear view mirror") and makes
very dramatic departure footage in the STOL plane, and one on each
wing on a ground adjustable swivel. I usually have the right wingcam
pointed straight ahead (or sometimes, straight down) and the other
one I have pointed at the cabin. I also have a rear cabin camera
pointed at the panel, also looking out the windshield, and another
one (lower res) that is wireless that can be duct taped anywhere
outside on the airframe for recording tufts, etc. All of the these
go into a shielded 5 position switch box that has two outputs, one to
a monitor built into the door of my mapbox, and the other to jacks to
the video camera. The audio portion of the video camera is fed by
the intercom's output of the pilot's headphones, so anything I hear
in my headphones is recorded. All devices are 12 volts.=C2-
=C2-
The cameras are 480 line Sony super HAD 1/3 inch sensor cams that
allow for different focal length lenses. They look pretty good for
standard res tv, and make for some clear images. Anything less looks
pretty bad - I am waiting for some 720 or even 1080 cams to be
cheaply available - then I might upgrade the cameras.=C2-
=C2-
I usually just hook up the camera to the system and turn it on as
part of preflight - select which camera I want to record, and then
forget about it until landing. One exception is if I want to see who
is behind me on the taxi way if its a busy day. I have learned to
always have the recorder on, though, because you simply don't know
what might come up - the one time you don't use it is the time you
wish you had. If the flight is unremarkable, I just rewind the DV
for the next flight.=C2-
=C2-
Gary Liming=C2-
=C2-
=C2-
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=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Inflight Cameras |
The setup page says I need a camcorder. =C2-Doesn't the DVR do the same th
ing?
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hutt <steve@huttmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 9:07 am
Subject: Avionics-List: Inflight Cameras
I=99ve no experience of using these, but they are
built specifically for this sort of task..
=C2-
See here:=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- http://www.s
port-cam.co.uk/activities.asp
=C2-
These folks are in the UK but I=99d be very
surprised if there=99s no equivalent available in the US.
=C2-
Take a look at the Quad Splitter and the 30GB Digital
Recorder in the Recording Devices section.
=C2-
Steve
=C2-
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