Avionics-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/18/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 11:29 AM - sidetone (Gordon Arbeitman)
     2. 11:40 AM - SL-60 for sale (teamgrumman@aol.com)
     3. 12:06 PM - Re: sidetone (Vincent Palermo)
     4. 01:37 PM - Re: sidetone (Doug McNutt)
     5. 04:12 PM - Re: sidetone (Noel Loveys)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:29:05 AM PST US
    From: Gordon Arbeitman <gordona23@earthlink.net>
    Subject: sidetone
    Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of Michel MX-ll radios. Any insight and or clues would be appreciated.


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    Time: 11:40:15 AM PST US
    Subject: SL-60 for sale
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    If you are looking for a second com and would like a second GPS as a bonus, I've got an SL-60 that was removed for a Garmin 430 installation. Looks new. Complete with tray and antenna. $1100 plus shipping.


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    Time: 12:06:38 PM PST US
    From: Vincent Palermo <vpalermo@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: sidetone
    Side tone is hearing your own voice in the head set when you speak into the mic, albeit at a lower level. Vincent Palermo vpalermo@tampabay.rr.com On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Gordon Arbeitman wrote: > > > > Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? > I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my > headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got > intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm > transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes > unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup > is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 > intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of > Michel MX-ll radios. > > Any insight and or clues would be appreciated. > >


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    Time: 01:37:53 PM PST US
    From: Doug McNutt <douglist@macnauchtan.com>
    Subject: Re: sidetone
    At 14:27 -0400 4/18/09, Gordon Arbeitman wrote: >Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? >I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my >headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got >intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm >transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes >unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup >is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 >intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of >Michel MX-ll radios. My recollection of the Sigtronics is that they just allow the audio from a comm radio to be mixed in wiring with the intercom audio. No switching is provided "because I sleep better that way". You should be able to use the transmitter for a test with the intercom turned off. That way you would be absolutely sure any sidetone is coming fro the transmitter. If that doesn't work you should also be able to connect the mike to a "standard" mike jack and the phones to a "standard" phone jack but you might need a mike with a push-to-talk switch on it. You can make a PTT by grounding the tip of the mike connector. That's the tip of "ring, tip, and sleeve of the three terminal connector. The CP125 does not generate any sidetone by itself. The Sigtronics drives the headphones but, although it's quite the same, it's not called sidetone. The war department's problem with distortion could well be the presence of audio from the Sigtronics being mixed out of phase with sidetone from the transmitter. -- --> A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't <--


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    Time: 04:12:08 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: sidetone
    First of all side tone is only in your own head set. It takes The same signal that is fed to your transmitter or audio panel but sends it back to your own headset so you can tell how loud you are speaking and if you are intelligible. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Arbeitman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Avionics-List: sidetone <gordona23@earthlink.net> Can anyone on the list give me a clear description of sidetone ? I''m not sure if the sidetone I hear (most of the time) in my headset is generated by the intercom or the comm radio. I've got intermittent loss of sidetone and it certainly changes when I'm transmitting. My wife also tells me that my voice is sometimes unintelligible in her headset although ATC can hear me. The setup is a Lightspeed 20-3G headset, talking through an Sigtronics SPA-400 intercom, and an ancient Narco CP-125 audio panel, to a pair of Michel MX-ll radios. Any insight and or clues would be appreciated.




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