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Subject: | IFR Certification |
6/11/2009
Hello Stan, You wrote: "This may not be the ideal forum for asking this
question, but I'll try it anyway."
Actually, this (AeroElectric-List) is the ideal forum for asking this
question.
This topic has been hashed out extensively on the aeroelectric list. If you
are interested in better understanding the situation go to the aeroelectric
archives and search for "encoder approval". You will find many entries under
this search phrase and there are other search phrases that will also
generate past postings on this subject.
To save you some time searching take a look at some of the postings in
August , 2006 with the subject "encoder approval" or "non TSO'd encoder".
You received some good advice in response to your posting copied below --
just go to another agency capable of performing the required 14 CFR 91.411
"IFR certification" tests and have them perform the tests and provide the
paper work. You'll be joining hundreds of other amateur builders happily
flying IFR with non TSO'd altitude encoders that have passed the required
tests of 14 CFR 91.411.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
PS: Stein Bruch wrote: " Basically the information provided to you is
completely false and not correct."
That is not entirely true. In defense of your local avionics guy he is
taking the same position that FAA headquarters took on the altitude
encoder -- that is, the altitude encoder must either be TSO'd or be tested
in accordance with 14 CFR paragraph 91.217 (b). The tests that FAA
headquarters described for compliance with 91.217 (b) are very elaborate and
extensive.
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Time: 10:23:41 AM PST US
From: Speedy11@aol.com
Subject: AeroElectric-List: IFR Certification
This may not be the ideal forum for asking this question, but I'll try it
anyway.
I want to certify my RV-8 for IFR flight. I know the FARs - I've looked at
them.
I have the Blue Mountain EFIS One as primary instrumentation.
I have the Blue Mountain EFIS Lite as a backup.
Both EFISs are on different electrical busses - the main and the standby.
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which can be tied together, if needed.
I asked a local avionics guy about doing a pitot-static and transponder
check for IFR. He said I would have to install a separate altimeter and
encoder in order to get IFR certification. The EFIS has a built-in encod
er.
Has anyone else encountered this obstacle?
Stan Sutterfield
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Subject: | IFR Certification |
6/12/2009
Hello Frank, You wrote: "Why pay twice if you don't have to?"
I agree. To determine if a flight without a transponder is legal go to 14
CFR 91.215.
Also note that permission for a flight without a transponder can be obtained
as described in 91.215 (d).
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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Time: 07:43:07 AM PST US
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: IFR Certification
Don't if it was legal but I didn't do a VFR cert..I just labeled the Transp
onder "Inooperative" and flew it to get the IFR cert done...Why pay twice i
f you don't have to?
Frank
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