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Mon 01/18/10


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 10:24 AM - Encoder Certification ()
     2. 09:15 PM - Encoder Certification ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:24:48 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Encoder Certification
    1/18/2010 Hello Sam Hoskins, You wrote: 1) "Without looking at the regs, I seem to recall that if the aircraft is equipped with an operating transponder, it must be turned on." That is correct. Here is what 14 CFR 91.215 (c) says: "(c) Transponder-on operation. While in the airspace as specified in paragraph (b) of this section or in all controlled airspace, each person operating an aircraft equipped with an operable ATC transponder maintained in accordance with 91.413 of this part shall operate the transponder, including Mode C equipment if installed, and shall reply on the appropriate code or as assigned by ATC." 2) "My simple minded solution would to pull the transponder and stuff it into a flight bag. You could even apply a sticker that says "INOP". Fly to the shop, then install it for the test." That would be a violation of 14 CFR 91.215 which says, in part: "(b) All airspace. Unless otherwise authorized or directed by ATC, no person may operate an aircraft in the airspace described in paragraphs (b)(1) through (b)(5) of this section, unless that aircraft is equipped with an operable coded radar beacon transponder having either Mode 3/A 4096 code capability,.............." 91.215 goes on to provide some exceptions to the above requirement such as aircraft originally certified with no electrical system and getting permission from ATC to operate with no transponder. What you describe is not one of the exceptions. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ==================================== Time: 07:16:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Encoder Certification From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@gmail.com> Without looking at the regs, I seem to recall that if the aircraft is equipped with an operating transponder, it must be turned on. My simple minded solution would to pull the transponder and stuff it into a flight bag. You could even apply a sticker that says "INOP". Fly to the shop, then install it for the test. Sam


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    Time: 09:15:07 PM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: Encoder Certification
    1/18/2010 Hello Steve Thomas, You wrote: 1) "Being able to do my own pitot-static check will also get me a long way to being able to discuss with some authority." A) There is no regulatory requirement for a pitot system check, but you may gain some confidence in the accuracy of your airspeed indicator by performing one. B) The static pressure system check performed in order to meet the requirements of 14 CFR 91.411 quoted here: "Altimeter system and altitude reporting equipment tests and inspections. (a) No person may operate an airplane, or helicopter, in controlled airspace under IFR unless- (1) Within the preceding 24 calendar months, each static pressure system, each altimeter instrument, and each automatic pressure altitude reporting system has been tested and inspected and found to comply with appendices E and F of part 43 of this chapter;" Must be performed in accordance with the portion of 14 CFR 91.411 quoted here: "(b) The tests required by paragraph (a) of this section must be conducted by- (1) The manufacturer of the airplane, or helicopter, on which the tests and inspections are to be performed; (2) A certificated repair station properly equipped to perform those functions and holding- (i) An instrument rating, Class I; (ii) A limited instrument rating appropriate to the make and model of appliance to be tested; (iii) A limited rating appropriate to the test to be performed; (iv) An airframe rating appropriate to the airplane, or helicopter, to be tested; or (3) A certificated mechanic with an airframe rating (static pressure system tests and inspections only)." So only if you hold one of the qualifications listed above, would you be able to perform the regulatory requirement of the static pressure system tests. But otherwise, as you point out, performing the test yourself could help you in your discussions. The equipment and parameters to perform the test are described in 14 CFR Appendix E to Part 43 (a). 2) "Being able to calibrate my BMA EFIS ahead of time will be a giant step in the right direction." Good idea. 3) "I will report back and detail my experience." I would appreciate that -- thank you. 'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and understand knowledge." ============================================== Time: 09:36:20 AM PST US From: Steve Thomas <lists@stevet.net> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Encoder Certification A discussion is already underway. What is most important to me is to know the facts. You cannot argue with "experts" if you don't know the facts. Being able to do my own pitot-static check will also get me a long way to being able to discuss with some authority. Being able to calibrate my BMA EFIS ahead of time will be a giant step in the right direction. Thanks to all of you for this invaluable help! I will report back and detail my experience. Steve Thomas




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